Welcome to Mesh Medical Device News Desk (MND)

//Welcome to Mesh Medical Device News Desk (MND)

Welcome to Mesh Medical Device News Desk (MND)

Desara mesh by Caldera Medical

Mesh Medical Device News Desk~ Welcome to Mesh Medical Device News Desk, your website for news and updates on pelvic and hernia mesh, its implications, complications and outcomes, both medically and legally. 

If you are new to the mesh mess, welcome!  Mesh News Desk (MND) has been covering this issue for more than seven years now. The goal is to raise the profile on the horrendous complications associated with polypropylene mesh used both for hernia and pelvic organ repair.

The medical establishment continues to reject that notion, even though there are thousand of injured consumers around the globe!

Please do not use your real names in the Comment section since lawyers have advised most women to keep a low profile online.

This website should not be considered medical or legal advice, but a publication. Please use the Search Bar  (See “Q” on Tool Bar top of page) to look up any stories from the seven years of archives!

Also did you know you can click on the “Heading ie, News, Legal, Medical etc. and find stories filed under that heading?

As you may know, there were so many pelvic mesh cases that multidistrict litigation was formed (MDL) in January 2012 in Charleston, WV to handle all of the cases. As of 2018, the West Virginia court stopped taking new cases. They will be filed in your state jurisdiction or the home state of your mesh manufacturer.

There are many morepelvic mesh cases filed in California and New Jersey. The numbers continue to expand as doctors continue to use transvaginal polypropylene (PP) mesh to treat incontinence and even for pelvic organ prolapse.

The larger pelvic organ prolapse (POP)  mesh has been reclassified as “high risk” so patients should understand even the Food and Drug Administration hesitates to recommend it as a first-line therapy.

If your doctor suggests a “hammock” or “tape” might be a good solution, understand that is PP “mesh” with upward of a 30% complication rate. Most women writing on these pages say it is the worst decision of their life. Admittedly, these are the patients who did not do well, others do okay, at least for time being.  No one knows what the long-term consequences will be.

Know what questions to ask your doctor (here) and find out if he/she can harvest a “sling” from your own body.

There are 104,749 product liability lawsuits filed in Judge Goodwin’s court alone. The MDL never imagined cases would swell to this number. There have been no new cases added in any MDL in this court since November 2017!  

Dr. Robert Bendavid, Shouldice Clinic, Toronto

If you have hernia mesh, it is made of the same polypropylene and some law firms are starting to take these cases seriously.  Stay tuned as MND plans more on the latest hernia mesh litigation efforts. Dr. Robert Bendavid graciously answers questions for MND readers. Write him here.  

Lawyers are presently seeking clients who have complications from C-Qur hernia mesh as well as Physiomesh by Ethicon, but MND gets calls from people implanted with Prolite, UltraPro and Kugel who are also having problems.  Perhaps it is the polypropylene(PP)? See that story here.

Stay well and learn from each other.  Lawyers – call your clients and or run a PR release through Mesh News Desk so many could have the benefit of seeing it at the same time. How’s that for a win-win!

Please feel free to share you experience on these pages, and if you choose, your donations would help offset the costs involved with this effort. Thank you. akre-1-300

Stay well friends,

Jane Akre, Editor


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About the Author:

I’m National News Editor, Jane Akre and I began Mesh Medical Device News Desk aka Mesh News Desk (MND) in the summer of 2011 just after the Food and Drug Administration issued an explicit warning to the public that complications associated with surgical mesh used for prolapse repair (POP) and incontinence (SUI) are NOT rare! That was the starting point for the litigation you see today and thousands of lawsuits have been filed by women whose lives have been altered, some permanently, by the use of this petroleum-based product.


  1. Victim Forever November 2, 2017 at 8:36 pm - Reply

    You are awesome Jane…Please know you’re efforts to keep us in the know are so appreciated..I’m sorry I can’t contribute monetarily due to being on a fixed income and still awaiting the outcome of my MDL..I pray for all who are unnecessarily suffering from this mesh mess..I also pray for you as you give us the truth in these various trials. Please keep up the great job..Thanksgiving is around the corner..I am thankful for advocates like you.

    • Jane Akre November 2, 2017 at 11:21 pm - Reply

      That’s very nice of you. I appreciate it and absolutely encourage you to hold onto your money when you are on a fixed income. I will figure it out. It keeps me going to hear from folks, so thank you!

  2. Bejah Blue November 3, 2017 at 9:38 am - Reply

    Hi, still here. Frontier has been very tolerant…not suspending me yet. I called them yesterday to say I can not pay yet and still they have not pulled the plug. I just wanted to say that I am totally digging the purple heart graphic. I say we should adopt that as our official symbolic thingamajig. We need something unifying. What say you people? We talked about this once but nothing happened so far as I can tell. We, as a population, seem to be like several little city states at times. We need to unite in some way. This is not high school clique time and lets face it…girls can get clique-ey! Love to all, happy Thanksgiving. Yesterday we splurged and went to a fabulous Japanese restaurant for an early dinner. It was heavenly. The only thing better would have been some warm Sake too! We still have much to be thankful for. Bejah

  3. Tom The hubby November 4, 2017 at 9:24 am - Reply

    Why has the WVCourt MDL info for Ethicon mesh pto’s, etc. now forbidding access and shut down to the public? I have accessed it literally for years to keep up on my wife’s case.

    • Jane Akre November 4, 2017 at 10:53 pm - Reply

      I’m not sure what you mean.. I still click and get orders and the numeric list of cases and can still search, please advise.

      • Kitty November 5, 2017 at 3:53 am - Reply

        Its down.

      • Cheri December 26, 2018 at 2:43 am - Reply

        Please, would you mind posting this link again. I do believe this is something I need to have as whoever’s my lawyer won’t speak to me. Thank you in advance

    • Kitty November 5, 2017 at 5:17 pm - Reply

      Tom. I know the site u are talking about. It is down…but Jane gave us another address and u can go to that one and get info. THANK U JANE.

    • Hubby Tom November 10, 2017 at 12:54 pm - Reply

      Jane, this is the link I used that is now “forbidden access”.
      However I did use the link you posted and it works fine. Thank you for all the amazing work and support you provide to women like my sweet wife of 43 years!

      • Jane Akre November 11, 2017 at 1:59 pm - Reply

        I know they recently did a redesign of the Charleston federal court website…. so that might be it.

  4. Bejah Blue November 5, 2017 at 10:07 pm - Reply

    I do not understand. If there are still cases out there how can sites that provide data on them be shut down and why? Why are there multiple sites and do we know that paths to them so we can all go check. Bejah

  5. M November 5, 2017 at 10:49 pm - Reply

    I would like to know if the purple ad in this newsletter could be put onto a t-shirt. I know that I would purchase one and I’m sure other’s may too.

    • Jane Akre November 6, 2017 at 10:42 am - Reply

      Very good question…..I will see..

    • Bejah Blue November 6, 2017 at 10:43 am - Reply

      Yes, M…I would also. Bejah

      • Kitty November 6, 2017 at 4:31 pm - Reply


  6. Kitty November 6, 2017 at 4:09 pm - Reply

    Most of us have been scammed. The attorys are getting rich off of us. 2002…illegal plastic traps with no hope of any thing…but pain and disabilities. Too bad I can’t have surgery to tear my guts out…that might give me 20k disgusting money grubbing gutter sniped.

    • Jane Akre November 6, 2017 at 5:34 pm - Reply

      Kitty- The lawyers who have taken the cases to trial are very hard working and from what I’ve observed fight like dogs for their clients. I have observed it myself first hand. I urge you to sit in one of these trials and I bet you would come to the same conclusion. Yes, many, in fact most, have not taken cases to trial. I can’t speak for how hard they have worked.

      • Kitty November 6, 2017 at 9:00 pm - Reply

        Jane…Im sure. Many are good. Bad day for me. Many broken promises and false information. Im more than likely going to the Sea Shore. Sorry for the rant.

        • Jane Akre November 7, 2017 at 6:14 am - Reply

          No worries, I’m sorry….

  7. Kitty November 6, 2017 at 5:10 pm - Reply

    October 2007..OBG MANAGEMENT …this is a news letter. Dr Barbara Levy. She was involved in a discussion with DRs Lucente Harris Miller Davita Culligan and RN Witte te: the use of synthetic vs native repair. Thru out the discussion she asked mostly rhetorical questions. She made few statements…one statement she did make: “I also evaluate tissue by exploring the patient history. Women with tissue defects and collagen genetic abnormalities often have had umbilical or inguinal hernias. In addition to the factors discussed, I look for external signs of poor tissue quality. For example is her face aging?” Mind you…this is coming from a beautiful young looking blonde. Many factors in facial appearance…high end cosmetics vs Walgreens brand. You think?

  8. Disgusted November 6, 2017 at 9:20 pm - Reply

    Lol. Thank you Kitty! You got me to smile. Laughter is good medicine.
    Yes, that’s the problem. Oh, wait . . . Everyone tells me I look a lot younger than I am. I buy the cheapest stuff I can find. I have gained 15 lbs in the last 8 years. That must be the problem. I’m now 145 (5′ 5″). I never smoked and I don’t drink (alcoholic parents)- that’s it . . . what caused the mesh to go bad in me.
    It couldn’t be that it shrank. I mean it worked well for over a year, and then over the summer it kept getting tighter and tighter. It was so painful! The doc tells me if she cuts it, the pain will stop. But a good chance I’ll leak again. I practically yelled at her “who cares? STOP THIS PAIN” We’re talking 12 out of 10 pain. Does incontinence matter anymore when you’re in so much pain? To me, it seems as though all the Dr.s look at is dryness for quality of life. IDIOTS. Now my life is gone. Well yes, I exist. Technically not gone. Way different. I went from 47 to 80 in a matter of months. I missed my golden 50’s.

    Ok, I do enjoy some things. Since the interstim I can sit long enough to eat out. I can entertain my 2 year old grandson. He cracked me up today. He was down for a nap and looking to stall the process. Finally leave him, he starts screaming maybe 10 mins later. I walk in and ask him what’s the problem. He says “I slept well”. One can’t fool an 80 year old. Lol

    • Kitty November 7, 2017 at 6:09 pm - Reply

      You looked so pretty and young…CaChing!! You get polypropylene…just off the boat from China. Congrats

    • Cara June 4, 2018 at 10:45 am - Reply

      I had a so-called-revision and I now believe that this is the reason that I am worse. It still shrinks and causes spasms, even after cutting it. It migrates to other parts of your body.”They” tell you that doesn’t happen, but removal doctors have removed it from organs, hips, etc. I think the only thing that can possibly helps is complete removal, and even then, there is no guarantee. I have been raped more than once, and this can’t even compare. In this day of a me too movement, we need to start a “meshed too” movement. This is the worst sexual assault that I have ever had. I can’t understand why some have their day in court, and I won’t.I haven’t even ever spoken with my lawyers.I only have ever spoken to the “tvm “team”, and yet they will have no problem taking my money.I have Caldera mesh, that are “insolvent”, even though they still have a thriving business. I just feel raped by everyone.

  9. Tom the Hubby November 7, 2017 at 11:30 am - Reply

    Re: ethicon MDL site- the link that I used for years now says “access forbidden”. But I saw a link you shared with someone with the same issue and that link works. So problem solved. By the way, shame on the husbands out there that have left their wives over this issue. 43 years with my soulmate and counting. I am by her side 100% no matter what. Can’t imagine adding that kind of emotional pain to women already burdened with unbelievable physical and emotional pain. Come on men, support your partner no matter what! Isn’t it what you’d expect if the situation was turn around?

    • Jane Akre November 7, 2017 at 1:57 pm - Reply

      What a great guy you are. Other men? Speak up now. You are not alone! I’d like to see the link you previously used. It appears the website has undergone a redesign of sorts.

    • Disgusted November 7, 2017 at 9:41 pm - Reply

      Good for you! My husband has been by my side for 36 years and he feels the same way. I thank God for men of integrity. Not many out there. My view on life has grown bleaker. So much pain, sorrow, just with ordinary life, but to add to it with indifference . . . Haven’t got the words.

      • Jane Akre November 8, 2017 at 10:58 am - Reply

        Your husband is wonderful!

  10. tiredofwaiting November 14, 2017 at 10:37 am - Reply

    Ok, now I am scared….I just received settlement paperwork and I am anticipating getting screwed. What worries me is the long term. I know they are NOT going to account for future medical and it really bothers me.

    • Jane Akre November 16, 2017 at 10:39 am - Reply

      Please get a FINAL number, not some guestimate. Please negotiate down from 40% since you were not prepped for trial. Please ask the law firm to pay the 5% common benefit fund…..no extra “expenses”…. get a list of what they are….. some consumer tips to up your settlement dollars…..

      • tired of waiting November 21, 2017 at 9:33 am - Reply

        Jane, what do you mean by a final number? Are you talking about the bottom line, the amount you walk away with?

        • tired of waiting November 21, 2017 at 9:36 am - Reply

          Do you mean if my contract with the law firm and the 40% since I didn’t go to trial? I have no idea what would be a reasonable percentage.

          • Jane Akre November 21, 2017 at 10:48 am

            Throwing out 30% with the fallback compromise if 33.3% which is standard. Unless you were worked up for trial which is very labor intensive, it seems fair. I’m not a lawyer and I’m sure any attorneys reading this are cringing. Anyone want to weigh in?

        • Jane Akre November 21, 2017 at 10:49 am - Reply

          Yes the absolutely final number that will be reflected on your check, not a “before we subtract any outstanding items” sort of promise which leaves a lot of wiggle room.

  11. Anna D November 15, 2017 at 5:59 pm - Reply

    Once again, I come to the Mesh NewsDesk with another question that I feel, is
    important to ask…
    Since I have no ‘real answers yet’ only that my Pelvic mesh case is in final phase of settlement, then in a few weeks later, it will possibly be several more months…
    No reason given…
    I also have now emerged into the pits of hades, as my work has basically ceased, as I am not able to work like past due to anxiety and mild to extreme pelvic pain from a desk job need to seek some resources…with the possible consideration from the Temporary HoldBack Fund that is in control by the Special Master..
    Would you have any information on
    this fund …I have had no response in my attempt to be considered.
    Thanks again Jane, if you have time to answer, if not, not a problem, you are still just wonderful
    the best to you
    Anna D

    • Jane Akre November 16, 2017 at 10:18 am - Reply

      Anna- I wish your lawyers were talking to you……. maddening and quite unprofessional in my opinion. The holdback fund is forfuture injuries down the road is my understanding. You know Im not a lawyer….. Since mesh is still being put into women it is likely there will be future product liability claims. Here is a settlement reached with AMS early on. page 10 sort of explains settlements but it doesn’t say anything about a holdback as I could find….. maybe you can find it. Again, squeaky wheel with your lawyers…. or lawyers= post a sponsored column here to explain these things!!!!!!


  12. Waiting for Justice November 17, 2017 at 8:26 pm - Reply


    Judge Goodwin made the statement a good while ago that he wanted these cases wrapped up by the end of this year if my memory serves me correctly. Why are things still moving along at a snails pace in the MDL? I just don’t understand. I hope you have an answer. Thank you!

    • Jane Akre November 17, 2017 at 9:35 pm - Reply

      You are right…earlier this year..all I can say is settlements gave been very slow…and many are refusing. If they don’t get 95% to agree then what?

      • tiredofwaiting November 22, 2017 at 9:50 am - Reply

        So, let them come at me with an amount, then tell the attorney that I want to only give them 30% rather than 40% and I want them to pay the 5%. Makes sense.

        • Jane Akre November 22, 2017 at 11:49 am - Reply

          They don’t get paid if you don’t so in a weird way you hold some cards here.

          • Advocate November 22, 2017 at 1:06 pm

            Sorry Jane, but that’s misleading. Where in the world did you get the idea, that because the attorney hasn’t been paid yet, that there’s an invitation to reduce fees and even worse, the client somehow holds a power card? The client signs a contract, an agreement, that says they are paying a specific percentage for the services rendered.
            To insinuate that there is a negotiation after the services are rendered, is completely wrong and infers something that is not in the contract. The client agreed to pay the percentage and should expect to pay it…period.
            Now there are attorneys who, of their own volition, choose to help a client with a subsequent reduction of the fees, but that is a personal choice and not a standard obligation. Anyone wanting to destroy goodwill with your firm, go ahead and tell them you want to re-negotiate.
            To quote a popular TV commercial…That’s not how it works, that’s not how any of this works.

          • Jane Akre November 22, 2017 at 1:10 pm

            Hi Advocate- Please consider that the entree to entice women to sign was something like “This is a million dollar case.” The promises were definitely that they would go to trial. That turns out not to be true. Some cases were never even filed. How much heavy lifting is involved in NOT filing a case and lining them up for settlement? 40% worth? No that should be reserved for the cases where the lawyer worked like a dog to ready the case for a jury. Sorry but this non-lawyer disagrees with your reasoning. Yes a contract is generally a contract, until the basis for the agreement changes. Just my opinion…

  13. Stopmeshimplants November 21, 2017 at 5:53 pm - Reply

    With all the news releases of women being sexually harassed wouldn’t you think people would want to know what happened to all of us. We were maimed, laughed at, turned over to other physicians, lied to, lost our careers, lost our homes, and left to suffer with pain the rest of our lives.
    Please tell me how we are different from those other women who have also suffered from such pain, degrading and humiliating circumstances?
    I cannot comprehend why our stories will not be shared in the mainstream news outlets. Someone please help me to understand.

    • Jane Akre November 22, 2017 at 11:55 am - Reply

      You are so right, Humiliated- Check. Accosted in your private parts? – Check. Denial?- Check. Refuse to be accountable?- Check…..There is no difference except you may have a lifetime of pain and a device that can’t be removed. A woman accosted by a superior may never get the job she wanted or enter the field she desired…

  14. Advocate November 22, 2017 at 3:09 pm - Reply

    Hey Jane,
    There wasn’t a reply button so I’m starting new here. I realize what I’m about to post is going to be akin to starting an avalanche, but knowing the facts has to be more important than how it makes one feel or if it’s counter to ones opinion.
    Let’s start with this… I think all the injured have been wronged in many ways. By medicine, by corporations and yes, even the justice system in degrees.
    Still, there are facts and then there are opinions. Let’s clear up a few of the opinions first. I keep seeing this post that many women are not accepting the offers. FACT: Not one settlement offer has failed to reach it’s agreed upon participation percentage. Thus, every agreement, that I’m aware of, has proceeded to disbursement. Doesn’t mean there were not those who dissented, but not large enough in numbers to derail the settlement offer.
    Opinion: The attorney told me I have a million dollar case. Fact: Some less scrupulous attorneys said that. Also factual is, the injured hearing what they want to hear and not what was said. Between those two things, we arrive at this juncture of promises that were or were not real. MY OPINION…this is a minority not majority.
    Next Opinion: Cases are not filed and as such, show less work has been done, therefore deserve less in fees. Fact: Filing a case has absolutely nothing to do with the work on the case. NOT FILING a case is often preferred, because it saves on fees and if trial is unlikely, then those fees are unnecessary. Filing a case is a matter of strategy, not work avoidance. There is a proper time to file a case, but again, trial preparation has nothing to do with a case filed.
    Opinion: My case was supposed to go to trial, that’s the agreement I signed. Fact: There was never an agreement to “go” to trial. A willingness if necessary, but no promise. This factoid needs to be looked at even closer. We know that the trials have lasted not less than two weeks. I’ll forgo all of the weeks of trial prep and jump straight to the court room. With each case lasting two weeks in front of a jury, basic math says, if I drop everything else in my life, I can do 26 trials a year, non-stop. I have 100 cases, so I will work for (rounded) 4 years to get through my docket. The reality is… I can’t do 26 cases a year, maybe not even half that and I have 300 cases not 100. So my docket just jumped to 23 years of litigation. Do you now understand why there was no promise of trial?
    The only way out of this is to arrive at mass settlements.
    Opinion: A contract is generally a contract, until the basis of the agreement changes. FACT: The contract is still THE contract unless terms and conditions are agreed upon by both parties, at which time a new contract will then supersede the old one. To not have mutual agreement, that terms and conditions are changed, means a party must sue for breech of said contract.
    Last but not least…Opinion: I’ll just choose not to sign off on my offer and the attorney will be required to negotiate with me. FACT: There is a legal procedure that moves this type of ploy before the courts to decide. It’s costly but the courts will decide who gets what and why, based on how the contract reads and the surrounding circumstances. It doesn’t usually end well for the client. You can’t hold the lawyer hostage. This is different from turning down an initial offer. This is only in cases where an offer was accepted and then a dispute arises.
    I know you have your heart in the right place Jane and the injured here, are not always clear of thought or have much exposure to how this really works. As a non-lawyer you have a right to your feelings and opinions. Of that, there is no dispute. Maybe I’m just very cautious about how things are said because I see everyday, how they are misconstrued and then do damage to the client attorney relationship.
    Peace and love to all and I hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving.

    • Anon November 24, 2017 at 5:44 pm - Reply

      Advocate for whom? Sounds more like a mole

      • Jane Akre November 24, 2017 at 9:31 pm - Reply

        Hes not a mole…. I know advocate and can vouch for him. Hes works in the medical/legal arena….

    • Time for Truth November 24, 2017 at 7:26 pm - Reply

      If the reality is you could not possible take to trial your 300 cases, then why take 300 cases? When a client signs your 40%, do you say my docket is so full or getting full I’ll never in reality be able to take each case to trial or I plan to sign up 300 or more and you are just number 13 right now? So your 40% is not reasonable at time of contract. Reality is…perhaps the settlements are only meeting the percentagsbecause the clients are the ones treated like hostages in the settlement and certainly not the lawyers for being asked to take a lesser fee. Perhaps the clients get told lies to sign or are strong armed into signing because if not they will be dropped. Also there are factors taken into account for what is considered a reasonable attorney fee and what a lawyer may know at the time of contract that a client would not matters, so the amount of work an attorney does will factor into whether the fee is considered reasonable. Just some other facts left out that should be considered in your statement. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

      • Advocate November 28, 2017 at 12:37 pm - Reply

        Time… your post brings to light some additional questions that are very good and deserve to be addressed. The idea of promising to go to trial was the false impression I was addressing. The shear number of cases make that unreasonable. Additionally, the deserved percentage being charged based on perceived work. Still, I think your question does help shed some more light on how the system works so let me trudge down that path.
        First, no firm that I’m aware of, says definitively to a client that they are only taking X number of cases. Maybe they should, but it would take far more space than this column, to explain how and why the firms choose their number of case limits. Many times it’s based on the difficulty of the case and certainly the cost to the firm to obtain the cases.
        Unfortunately, this is still a math problem. I’ll use round numbers to make the process smoother. Let’s start with how many attorneys exist who are true “litigation” attorneys. There are estimated to be 93,000 personal injury attorneys in the US. Maybe 15% of these attorneys would be considered Personal Injury Litigation attorneys. So that number is 14,000. They are not the advertisers you see in the typical commercial saying “In a wreck, get a check” TV spots. Litigation is not the skill set of all or even most attorneys. (In fact, there are national surveys that say trials are in the decline across the country and have been since as early as 2012.) That means they never see the inside of a courtroom for trial. Many of these attorneys associate in someone from that 15% to handle cases that are actually set for trial. There is a number of those outside of the 15% that “dabble” in trial, although many wouldn’t admit that’s the word they practice…ego you know.
        So there’s 105,000 cases and 14,000 attorneys standing around waiting to go to trial, right? If they all split the cases, they would have about 8 cases each. That’s a whole years worth of nothing but trials. Working nothing else but Mesh and generating no income for overhead expenses. That’s not to mention their cost to prepare for trial, ranging from $50K to $100k per case, depending on the complexity of the tort and the number of depositions required, etc. So those 14,000 attorneys would need between $400K and $800k of their own (Firms) money to get to trial. By the way, no guarantee they will win, since juries can do the strangest things.
        Sorry Time, but here’s the truth… there’s nothing close to 14,000 attorneys who are capable and willing to take these cases on. For a host of reasons, that number might not be larger than 5,000 attorneys. That’s my guess. At our biggest conferences that cover these types of cases, turnouts occasionally hit 1,000 members. Jane has attended and seen first hand the numbers. And frankly, they are virtually the same faces every time. I’ll stand by my 5,000 number and not be surprised that the real life figure could be lower.
        So now we’re talking about 21 cases per attorney and 3 years of continuous litigation and a cost of 1 to 2 MILLION dollars out of the attorneys (firms) pocket to get the docket to trial, to hope they can recover for you, a fair settlement. How they made a living during that 3 year period isn’t even addressed. I think you can begin to understand why some attorneys (firms) have more cases than others. They could afford them, but it doesn’t change the strategy of getting the defendants to settle without trial.
        Frankly, the sciences of the torts drives many attorneys to not get involved, even if they might have money and space for the cases. Client difficulty is another component. I have seen really good damage cases that would never get near the courtroom because the client was so dislikable. Even though that disposition might be justifiable, they feared a jury would penalize them. The nature of some of the injured is “when I tell my story in front of that jury they’ll hear and recognize my truth and punish those sob’s.” Anger on the stand, seldom works and some of the injured can’t contain themselves.
        To your point of settlements, I’d never say that no one was pressured, but I think few can make that claim honestly. Therefore, I think the settlements represent the majority recognizing the situation for what it is. My definition of damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
        Reasonable attorney fees was your last issue. Understand that if a contract ends up in front of an arbitration, unless the fee percentage exceeds the usual and customary percentages seen in PI work (I.E. 40% or less), the bar is set against the client. I’ve probably seen no more than a handful of contract losses over the years and in almost all of those cases the fees exceeded 40%. There were a few bar sanctions for failure to do minimum work standard of representation, but those most often were not tort litigation attorneys either. So going to battle attorneys for their contract percentages in front of the courts representatives … in my perspective equals throwing money away. Perhaps you know of a case or two where the specifics of what an attorney did as “work” factored into the decision? I’m always interested in case facts over personal beliefs and you might very well be correct in what your personal experiences have been.
        I’m not here to sit in judgment, but I also dislike false narratives and misinformation. I don’t think it’s healthy for anyone to close their eyes to the reality of how things are, good or bad, and pursue their own truth. I appreciate Jane and her defense above, when called out as a mole. That’s what happens when you don’t like the message of the messenger. I realize that the injured like Anon, have been wronged in many ways. I take the slights less personally because of that. Perhaps you are part of these injured Time, and I do hope that there is an equable resolution for you in your near future.
        Take care as best you can…

        • Jane Akre November 28, 2017 at 4:39 pm - Reply

          Thank you Advocate- always good to hear from you.

          I have one question- In any circumstance is it okay for the law firm to walk away with more money than the injured? You thoughts……

          • Advocate November 28, 2017 at 6:27 pm

            That’s a crafty question Jane! Good thing you know I’m not a PC person! The answer is a simple NO. There’s still a but to that.
            I’ll assume your definition of more money takes into account the services obtained on behalf of the client. On the surface, 40% should never be a larger check than 60%, except when the 60% is also responsible for the repayment of loans, liens and other outstanding services received by the client or realized as a benefit by the client.
            I’m not comfortable with the idea, nor do I know of others who are comfortable with a check bigger than the client’s check, when none of that other stuff exists.
            Here’s how I look at the settlement sheet. I’ll use $100,000 as the settlement number. Attorney takes 40K and client gets 60K. Client owes $1,000 in fee’s and another $1,000 in litigation expenses for a total of $2,000. The client took a personal loan against proceeds for $10,000 that has grown in interest payoff to$13,000. There were medical reimbursements that totaled another $18,000. So from the clients $60,000 there is a subtraction of $33,000. Client gets a check for $27,000. Did the client get less than the attorney? No… the loan proceeds and medical reimbursement are direct benefits received by the client. Without those services rendered, the check would have been $58,000 and attorney was still $40,000. The attorney didn’t take out the loan nor did they get the medical care.
            That’s how the perception that attorneys checks are larger happens. Most attorneys will attempt to negotiate down the loan and the medicals to put more into the clients check, but those entities are not obligated to reduce those payments. Some attorneys will even take some of their percentage and reduce as a way to get the client a bit more. That’s a personal decision.
            But the simple answer is, again, 40 is never more than 60.

          • Jane Akre November 28, 2017 at 6:44 pm

            So we agree…. good to know.

            40% for a settlement negotiation? Really? Shouldn’t that be reserved for the heavy listing of a trial? Wouldn’t 33.3% be more appropriate for a settlement? And the pressure that is being put on to sign
            “This is all your case is worth..” women are told. Wow. While we’re at it… Caldera. It had insufficient insurance for the products it was implanting… then the litigation with its insurer whittled down $25 million to $12 million. Women got $3-4,000, before legal fees. That’s all there is they were told. If I don’t have enough insurance and I’m in a car wreck, the person I’ve injured can go after me personally. Why cant the Caldera women do the same…?

        • Time for Truth December 6, 2017 at 4:25 pm - Reply

          So as the plaintiff attorneys basically hoard so many cases it is impossible to see them to trial but knowingly “for sure” the easy money coming their way if can get them all coerced into signing a settlement even if it means leaving their ethical standards as an attorney behind. Do you not think the manufacturer attorneys are aware the plaintiffs will not take their mass hoarding of cases to trial and thereby only need to offer measly settlements? They are attorneys too — they know the game. And, please, the save the client money by not filing — you mean more like save the attorney money from not filing the case. For example 300 cases, at $400 filing fee equals $12,000 that could take years to even get that back when a settlement comes. This whole MDL process is not justice but rather a place where victims are further victimized by being held in a type of “case jail” and lied to. The MDL is merely a place where the exchange of money from one evil act to another takes place because both sides are conducting themselves without ever given their patient or client full informed consent.

          • Time for Truth December 6, 2017 at 4:31 pm

            PS: They don’t want to actually “file” because that would actually cause work to have to be done on the case and then have deadlines to meet and a judge is actually involved or they are held a tiny bit accountable. It is not “saving the client” money, it is saving the attorney time and money and easier to drop the case if they client will not comply later.

          • Advocate December 7, 2017 at 6:05 pm

            You don’t have to like the facts and obviously you don’t. There are not enough hours in a day to satisfy you because the explanations don’t align with the reality that you want to live. I’m truly sorry that I couldn’t do more for you. But it isn’t just you who reads this…right?
            I’m sure you were typing quickly and missed adding that last 0 in your 300 case x $400 example. The correct answer was $120,000 or TEN times more than your mistake. Just an example of accuracy and how important it can be.
            Your feeling about case “collection” is obvious and equally devoid of understanding the explanation of how and why. Perhaps rereading the post will help you understand the lack of the available legal entities, qualified and willing to take on these cases and frankly, clients like yourself.
            So from all of the information that was posted, you came away with the conclusion that attorneys hoard cases because it makes for easy money and and filing cases requires them to do work and be accountable to judges. A clear example that either, you didn’t read it carefully, didn’t understand what was written or you just chose to ignore a narrative that didn’t match yours.
            Normally, I wouldn’t post a strong sentiment like this, because you’re a person suffering from pain and you lack a functioning knowledge of factual expertise. But you need the truth. You’ve never been an attorney. You’ve never been part of the litigation of a trial and the strategy of such. You have no idea what kind of commitment of time, money, personal sacrifice, an attorney or firm or the people necessary to support one, goes through. You call them out for their profiteering ways as you see it, but never stop asking where’s yours.
            That’s right you’re the injured. Like that fact could ever be forgotten. I mean after all, it’s not like there are another 105,000 just like you. No, you’re unique, special. It’s just the people working on yours and those other 105,000 injured cases, that are all the same money grubbing, lazy scoffers soaking up your version of justice.
            At no point, in anything I have ever posted, have I suggested that all is fair and just. That doesn’t change what the facts are. You don’t have to like my facts but you don’t get to make up your own either. You have a duty to your fellow injured to help ferret truth, to share experiences that might offer comfort or direction. You don’t get a free pass on impugning the credibility of those who do what you don’t do. Maybe I’ve seen too many posts calling out those trying to help, calling out the best legal system in the world, even with all of its flaws.
            I’ll chose at this moment, to believe that your emotions, attitudes and irrational lashing out, is based on the personal nature of the injured. It’s a shining example again, as to why some can’t be near a witness stand. Yet, the profession is compelled to allow it, even against our best advice.
            Since nothing I can present to you Time, will help you and the alternative lane that you live in, I would beg you to consider those “other” readers who do need the information.

          • Time for Truth December 8, 2017 at 5:13 am

            Wow in a condescending manner “attack and attempt to belittle the injured” … must have gotten that “strategy” straight from the defendants’ attorneys’ playbook as that’s certainly what they attempt to do to victims. You certainly are making a lot of assumptions about me that you have absolutely no idea of the facts in my life or my firsthand experience or background. You say I am a “shining example” as to why “some” can’t be near a witness stand? Hmmmm….I’ve been called as a witness on the stand several times after being appointed by a judge to advocate for the best interest of abused and neglected children in the foster system. I can conduct myself just fine on the witness stand. It is pretty darn simple . . . speak the truth.
            I stand by each statement I have made and completely agree with your statement that I have a “duty to ferret truth, to share experiences that might offer comfort or direction” and that “other” readers need the information. This is exactly what I was trying to do but you do not like the truth of my experience.
            You are absolutely right I have no idea what kind of commitment of time, money, personal sacrifice an attorney or their firm goes through (but if you can’t even file a case for $400 that is not a lot of commitment of time or money) but you are right, I am not an attorney. But, I can say this, you have absolutely no idea what it is like to have a piece of toxic plastic rotting inside your female organs and claws left embedded within your pelvic muscle tissue as it cannot be removed? Do you know what it feels to then find out what is inside you should have never been used in a human body and that the people behind all this KNEW that and did it anyway and just concealed that information? Do you then know what it feels like to reach a point after years where you should get some type of closure and maybe a small attempt to restore some of the lost parts of your life but only to find out you were lied to again by those who were supposed to be on your side, who, more or less, did the same thing by concealing information about the reality of a MDL by leaving out information they would have known.
            I reread your statement of the true trial attorneys versus those that “dabble” in it and those not at all and some of your hypothetical numbers and, let me ask you this – what if what you described were doctors and patients rather than attorneys and clients. For example, let’s say there are 5000 doctors who call themselves surgeons but only really about 1000 actually operate in the operating room, the others just “dabble” in it and as many as at least 3000 do not do surgeries at all but they ALL sure do sign up patients who think they are going to the operating room with a competent surgeon one day, however, they NEVER go the operating room, they will just stay in the waiting room in another state because there are so many needing this operation but none of these doctors will tell their patients this information when they are signing their consent for surgery. When time comes for the anticipated surgery, that patient is then told, sorry there is just too many needing this surgery (although that was our brilliant strategy to sign up as many as we could). However, I will charge you as though I did the surgery and even give the hospital a big chunk of the money because, after all, I would have had to use their equipment for the surgery, and, look, here is a Band aid for you to cover the place that needed surgery, now go be happy! What would attorneys advise these patients that were knowingly lied to by their so-called surgeon and just left in the waiting room in another state and then given a band-aid as the ONLY option? You certainly would not call it the “best medical system in the world” now would you? You might call these type of surgeons “money grubbing, lazy scoffers” soaking up your version of healthcare.

          • Jane Akre December 8, 2017 at 8:55 am

            I hope we can be civil to one another. We dont always have to agree….. thank you.

  15. Caroline November 30, 2017 at 12:55 pm - Reply

    I have a Coloplast implant and represented by Motley Rice. I finally got an update from a paralegal a couple days ago stating that they have reached the 95% required threshold and that they are waiting on the $ to come into the office to start disbursing. I was told that I should have a timeline on when I should receive my settlement by mid-end of this month. I am plain and simple just tired of fighting and I assume this is what they do – exhaust people until they just say whatever I’ll take it to end the madness. It seems like so much information is withheld and when I went on the Pacer site I cannot even find my name attached to a case. Confused and tired is what I am.

    • Jane Akre November 30, 2017 at 1:18 pm - Reply

      I’m sorry Caroline….. it is understandable that you are tired of fighting. Send me your case number and I hope we can find you via Pacer…. your case should be filed, but I’ve seen some where they saved the $450 filing fee. janeakre@meshnewsdesk.com PS- EVERYONE should have their case number and look up your case. It’s call the COMPLAINT. Make sure it include EVERYTHING you have gone through and is not missing the number of mesh removals/revisions …that is VERY important!!

      • Advocate December 1, 2017 at 1:42 pm - Reply

        Jane, responding to your previous post on Caldera, ect.

        The 40 % mark in fee’s for the MDL cases, can in part, be due to the attorneys losing 5% to 8% in costs within the MDL requirements. Would the ledger look better if the attorney said I’m only taking 32% but you, as the client, need to pay all contributing fees? Some of those fees can’t be paid directly by the client anyway. So like all commerce, it’s done through price increases.
        To your example of Caldera and car wrecks, they are kinda apples to oranges. Corporations are protected through insurance coverage that is meant in some degree, to protect commerce. You put a company out of business and you also put families out of the ability to provide. We often forget about those people down the food chain that simply go to work to provide for their families.
        In car accidents, there are those who are insured and those who are under insured/not insured at all. If someone is within the latter category, it’s usually because they have nothing to lose. Can’t get blood out of a rock.
        If you have the ability to lose something, you increase your coverage and you protect assets through a personal trust that exempts you from losing those in an accident or other type of litigation. Same principal as the Caldera situation.
        If you are suggesting that management should somehow be personally liable for a corporate action that results in a civil suit, that’s another beast of color. I wouldn’t allow my personal assets to be vulnerable. I’m sure those execs have financial advisers that would see to that as well.

        • Jane Akre December 6, 2017 at 10:41 am - Reply

          Advocate- they are not losing the 5%, they are asking the client to contribute the 5% in addition to 40%…..!!!

          • Advocate December 7, 2017 at 4:43 pm

            I’m 100% confident when I make this statement, that the number of firms passing along the 5% to the clients is insanely small. I know far more firms who chose to pay the whole 5% than those who paid none. Most, probably 98 %, split the charge as they always do in the torts. Although this tort did not spell out those separations, the 4% is considered a fee and paid by the attorney and the 1% is treated as a cost and paid by the client. Not saying there are some that did it differently, just want to dispel the notion that the 5% was routinely passed to the client as your post indicated.

          • Jane Akre December 7, 2017 at 5:18 pm

            Good to hear.

    • WV Girl November 30, 2017 at 4:08 pm - Reply

      My mom was offered a settlement a couple of months ago; she too is represented by Motley & Rice. She is part of the lawsuit going on in WV that was supposed to go to trial back in March but never did. It’s a shame the money she was offered, pennies. By the time everyone gets their share she will be lucky to walk away with $2000. She has suffered for years, had multiple mesh surgeries and due to scar tissue she will have several more. She keeps a UTI, cannot live a normal life. Even going to the grocery store is a task for her. My dad is in his 80’s and he takes care of her on a day to day basis. He now has resumed all household duties my mom would normally have done. When talking to her lawyers, they only tell her that it is in her best interest to settle. This really disappoints me to hear her “lawyers” tell her this after working with her for several years. My mother is 78 years young she has raised six daughters and everyone of us believe that she deserves more and has asked her not to settle. She has her rights and she will get her day in court. Like my mother said “if nothing comes of this for me, at least it might help someone in the future.”

      • Jane Akre December 1, 2017 at 2:39 pm - Reply

        Yes, that is not enough for anything….. has she signed? She will forever foreclose her rights to any future claim if she does.

        • WV Girl December 5, 2017 at 1:50 pm - Reply

          Thank you for allowing me to vent. No my mother has not taken the settlement we (her) girls(6) have asked her not to sign it. You are right it gives all rights away for any future medical procedures. It is not right, these attorneys have worked with my mother for the past few years (2013) lead her to believe there is justice and the bottom line is, there isn’t. It makes me so sad to see her suffer. A representative from Motley & Rice keeps calling her wanting her to settle. I am sure this is a 3rd party person trying to collect on their behalf and we aren’t having it. They told her that “it’s the best we can do.” Like I said before, everyone has their day in court and why settle for beans when she has nothing to lose. I say we get our day in court 🙂

          • Jane Akre December 5, 2017 at 2:07 pm

            Seriously, there is very little any law firm can do when the defendant offers beans…….Their hands are tied,,, blood from a rock..

            Are you sure your firm will take you to trial?

          • Advocate December 5, 2017 at 6:56 pm

            Motley Rice is one of the most respected firms working the settlements. Their numbers have consistently been at the top of the compensation. When you say your mother only gets a couple thousand after everyone get’s theirs, who is everyone? Are you talking about repayment of medicals and other fee’s or just the costs going to attorneys?
            If Motley says that’s all, it’s likely that’s all. I know if they felt this were a case that needed trial for fair value, they wouldn’t be pushing the settlement. You are leaving out some large, important information. Did your mom have a pre-settlement loan? Will they have a large hold back for past medicals? Did she have qualifying surgeries based on guidelines for her manufacturer?
            Motley won’t be out of these cases anytime soon and they are a litigation firm with heavy trial experience. That should tell you something, if they are saying take the settlement and no, there is no third party calling on their behalf to get her to sign.
            I don’t think you fully understand the issue of trial. If Motley isn’t going to take it there, it will be next to impossible to find another who will. A potential firm would have to be willing to put 6 figures into the litigation and hope to come up with substantially more than what has been offered. I don’t want to be the wet blanket, because this has nothing to do with what your mother deserves, but the deck is stacked against her ever seeing a courtroom.
            My unsolicited opinion, is for you to speak with the firm and ask them the questions again. Why the value that has been assigned to your mom’s case. Why they feel trial wouldn’t be a successful alternative. Be clear about those things that are reducing your mothers share of proceeds. I know you think there is nothing to lose but there is neither a certainty of getting a trial or winning, even if you did. Your mom is with a really good firm and your mom is paying for their legal advice. Make sure you have listened carefully.
            Wishing your mom and all of you supporting her, the best!

  16. Caroline December 4, 2017 at 9:35 am - Reply

    WV Girl, I am so sorry to hear about your mom’s drastic change in quality of life. It just seems totally unfair what they are offering her and I don’t understand why if she’s had revisions her offer isn’t much larger. Motley Rice should be able to negotiate something better for her considering the circumstances. I thought those with revisions were in a higher tier than those with product in place claims. Does that make sense to you Jane?

  17. Meshie December 6, 2017 at 12:28 am - Reply

    Are the bellweather trials over? I thought they were the guidelines for settlements… This is not happening why?

    • Jane Akre December 6, 2017 at 10:38 am - Reply

      They were the guidelines and that is supposed to lead to settlements, but if the defendant either refuses to settle or offers piddly settlements…. what can the judge do? He promised neither side would be happy. He was right.

      • Time for Truth December 6, 2017 at 5:04 pm - Reply

        If you know the plaintiffs have no intention or means to take their hundreds of “collection” of cases to trial, of course they would offer only a pidley settlement. Also, shouldn’t blame the judge, it more lies with “the panel” and lead attorneys that cases are not remanded.

  18. anonymous December 6, 2017 at 2:01 pm - Reply

    This is the most ridiculous situation in American history. These people have maimed and destroyed peoples lives. They offer pennies to people who have nothing left and it’s ok with Judges??? It is true they will stall and stall until people have no choice but to sign the agreements. Meanwhile we suffer terrible disabling pain. Our lives will be shortened because of the infections, stress and surgeries we have had to endure. The hope of having some sort of life restored is lost. So we face pain, pills, and surgeries the rest of our lives. And lets not for get the And let’ not forget being ridiculed by doctors. The quality of our lives (at least for some ) is a dark path with little hope given to us by the MDL process. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD? People are so concerned with things that happened to women 30 years ago but it’s ok to destroy their lives today. Years and Years go by with no hope and only pain. Some get Millions and Millions while others are throw bird seed. I was told the cases that went to court would set a guide for what our cases would be worth. That has not happened. Some companies have bragged about settling but in reality they are not. They are dragging this out until more of us die. And this is ok with the Judge???? Some where some place there has to be an attorney that will do right and get their client what they deserve. Yes, even if they have to take less. I just wish someone would take notice of this and do a news piece on it. I think we all have been promised more than we could ever really get back. The sad thing is we have lost more than we can ever get back. From our bodies being mutilated, to our relationships with our spouse and family, to our jobs, homes, friends and the list goes on of what we have lost. We didnt ask for this and now no one cares to make it right. Some where out there, there has to be an attorney who will do the right thing for their client. There has to be an attorney who will fight for us.

    • Jane Akre December 7, 2017 at 11:45 am - Reply

      Greatest country in the world….. this clip from The Newsroom goes to that….. America is being co-opted by corporations to the point where people either don’t figure into the equation or are a distant second in my opinion. Every aspect of injustice you see has to do with the pursuit of profits over people…Please watch the whole thing…..we used to be the greatest….


      • Anon December 9, 2017 at 4:58 pm - Reply

        How refreshing! The Truth is always liberating………..

    • Cara June 4, 2018 at 12:17 pm - Reply

      I just called my attorney and was told by a tvm “team member”, that the interest in the case on their side, is solely based on the product itself and any revision surgery because of the product. They have no interest in pursuing anything for our pain and suffering, loss of job and social activities, loss of consortium, mental anguish, or in my case, even the fact that I had gangrene and almost died after a revision surgery. After being their client for many years (and never actually speaking to my lawyer-only their team members), this is the first I have ever heard of this. I repeatedly have asked if my husband can sue for lack of consortium and was told that they decided it would”look better” if it appeared that our husbands didn’t have their “hand out” and that it appeared as though they are supportive. If our husbands haven’t left us(which many of them have) I think that looks as though they are supportive. Don’t they have the right to money as well? Would any of my lawyers like to give up their sex life for the rest of their lives and not be a bit miffed? I think my lawyers just don’t want to be bothered. I have Caldera, so they won’t be getting much as it is.

      • Jane Akre June 4, 2018 at 1:07 pm - Reply

        Cara- Caldera is among the worst because they declared they were insolvent, even as they fought their insurance company and their $25 million dwindled down to $12 million. Basically they were underinsured for the product they were selling and yes you are right…. they continue on today untouched and unaccountable. It is a prime example of white-collar shady activity. Who is your law firm? Is he/she aware that AMS tools are included in the Caldera mesh kit? Not that AMS/ now Endo is in great shape financially, but better than Caldera. No idea why law firms have not chosen that avenue to pursue…. anyone?

  19. Caroline December 7, 2017 at 10:35 am - Reply

    I actually spoke with my attorney after months of calling and either getting his vm or a paralegal. Without actually saying in flat out, he indicated that those who did not accept the settlement offers were basically being given the option to find other representation so that they could meet the 95% required threshold of acceptance. There has got to be other ways to fight for those who are not happy with the settlement offers they received. I am represented by Motley Rice as well and the offer they got me was not what I would have wanted but in my opinion it was fair. It just doesn’t sound like them to say take the offer or go because as Advocate says they are a pretty big and well respected firm. I wish there was more that could be done to help those that would rather go to trial.

    • Jane Akre December 7, 2017 at 11:37 am - Reply

      Consider Caroline that a trial will not always yield a favorable outcome for the plaintiff…. some have lost after waiting a long time for trial and being subjected to the probing. Going to trial will cost at least $500,000 and guess who pays that!? You do, out of your award. If you win there will be an appeal for years. IF you lose, everyone loses, you get zero…. There needs to be a better way.

  20. Livi December 8, 2017 at 6:45 pm - Reply

    I received my offer from Ethicon and recently received my settlement sheet breakdown to sign and return. I was told I should receive my check shortly. I ended up getting 50% of the offer after all fees and expenses. Im just ready for it to be over. I have two implants and I’ve had 4 revision surgeries. Do I think I should if received more? Yes. However it’s more than I ever thought I would see so I’m taking it. I’m ready for it to be over and to move on with my life the best I can. I guess I look at it differently. My settlement allows me to buy a house for my daughter and grandchildren, a stable home of their own. And that is priceless.

    • Caroline December 11, 2017 at 4:11 pm - Reply

      Good for you Livi,

      I hope they payout very soon – helping your daughter and grandchildren with it is very giving of you. God Bless.

  21. Caroline December 11, 2017 at 2:31 pm - Reply


    I’m curious because I received a settlement breakdown back in December of 2016 from my attorney for my case against Coloplast and still have not received a check yet. I too just want this to be over and done with all of it so I can move on. Just as you I plan to use the money to help my kids and grandkids. I was under the impression that Judge Goodwin wanted the MDL closed by the end of 2017. I know legal issues take time but I just want to be DONE. 🙁

    • Jane Akre December 11, 2017 at 5:22 pm - Reply

      What does your law firm say? Certainly 12 months is enough time to work out the details………

      • Caroline December 12, 2017 at 8:25 am - Reply


        I’m represented by Motley Rice – last week they told me that I’d hear from them with definitive timeline on when I can expect the check around Christmas. They say that they are just waiting on Coloplast to release the funds. We shall see.

    • Livi December 12, 2017 at 4:06 pm - Reply

      I was told when I signed off on the settlement distribution sheet that the funding should be coming through any day. And once it does my check will be issued immediately. They are withholding 25% because they are haggling with my health insurance company over what they’re entitled to as far as reimbursement.

    • Livi December 12, 2017 at 6:07 pm - Reply

      Was it the settlement offer sheet or the final settlement disbursement sheet that they sent you? From what I understand, the disbursement breakdown sheet isn’t sent to until right before th settlement is funded.

  22. Caroline December 14, 2017 at 10:38 am - Reply


    It was the settlement offer sheet not the disbursement so unfortunately I probably won’t get the disbursement breakdown until more months from now. It’s so frustrating – can’t understand why it would take 1 full year after the offer to still be stuck in the same spot. I lost so much time from work due to the health issues caused by the mesh and I’m just tired and want to be done with this. Christmas is going to be very bleak for my family because of all the debt I’m in from not being able to work. Thankfully I am back working full time so hopefully the settlement can at least take some of the debt relief from us. Did your attorney call you first or did the disbursement sheet just come in the mail?

    • Livi December 17, 2017 at 10:49 pm - Reply

      insigned th settlement sheet back in August. They called me a few weeks ago and said things were moving quickly and finding should be very soon so they emailed me the disbursement sheet which I signed and emailed back to them. I was told the finding should be in the next few weeks and as soon as it comes in they will issue me my check

  23. LLOVE December 19, 2017 at 10:10 am - Reply


    • Caroline December 20, 2017 at 9:02 am - Reply


      I am wondering the same thing – all this signing of paperwork and more paperwork is beginning to feel like a smoke screen. Supposedly I’ll have a timeline on when I can expect to get a check around Christmas but we shall see.

  24. Caroline December 31, 2017 at 1:31 pm - Reply

    Motley Rice is contributing 4% of the required 5% to the common benefit fund and per my settlement agreement I will only have to pay 1% so they are in fact absorbing some of the cost from there fee which is good for me.

    • Jane Akre December 31, 2017 at 3:57 pm - Reply

      Excellent news… Many law firms are telling the women they must pay it all, from what is being reported to me.

  25. Livi January 4, 2018 at 9:10 pm - Reply

    So I just received my settlement check. I had to pay the 5% into the common fund. However it was substracted from
    The settlement amount before my attorney’s 40% so I saved a little. I’m just glad it’s all behind me for the most part, other than always dealing with the mesh problems.

    • Jane Akre January 4, 2018 at 9:34 pm - Reply

      Why did you have to pay the 5%?

    • Caroline January 8, 2018 at 1:44 pm - Reply


      Who was your attorney? I still have yet to receive even a settlement sheet. Ugh so frustrating and so ready to be done with this.

  26. Suzy January 24, 2018 at 6:21 pm - Reply

    Dear Jane Akre

    Just need. to vent, I guess…
    My case is with Potts-Law and another
    never ending story but I am now really angry as to the many changeable answers given to me when I call, and I call about every three weeks, same delays, case has been settled with promises to send paperwork that never arrives. now I am referred to another law firm who doesn’t seem to know about my case, and have had a representative from Potts Law state that my settlement amount is too high…was told verbally how much my settlement is however very unprofessional in not discussing the lawyers %, or other fees and just said it will be quite a while longer before we know and I said, know what…if my case has settled,
    when I go to PACER will I get the answers to any of my concerns here?
    thanks much,
    Torn and worn

    • Jane Akre January 25, 2018 at 11:03 am - Reply

      I will write you privately

  27. No justice January 29, 2018 at 3:25 am - Reply

    I had a mesh surgery 10 years ago and stood up the next day completely incontinent. That’s hard to take at 45 years old. I’m very thankful that I don’t have the pain of others. However, after 4 years, I talked to one woman handling my case. She indicated I would be receiving $20,000 something, clear, after attorney fees etc. She shared with me that I could spend $2,000 for a Special Master to review my case and see about receiving more or I could forgo that and accept the settlement.
    The next thing I know I get a letter offer in the mail of $8500! I’m sure all other costs come out of that! I just cried.
    The letter indicated that because I didn’t have surgeries, I couldn’t be awarded more. Why would I have more surgeries to use more mesh or sling after what I had been through! The letter indicated that a trial would be a waste of time and money, { I understand their point}. The attorneys representative said that at trial it would be argued that the doctor who put in the mesh was responsible.
    I didn’t sue her or the hospital and it’s to late now.
    Sad injustice of the world.

    • Jane Akre January 29, 2018 at 3:49 pm - Reply

      I’m so sorry. I talked to someone today who had no revisions and got a check for $2,700. Now she has had two surgeries and needs a third. Unfortunately her timing did not coincide with the Special Masters. Since she has signed ending her case and it has been dismissed, it appears she has few options. Anyone with ideas, please join in now.

    • Still Standing January 31, 2018 at 7:22 pm - Reply

      That should not have happened. Most law firms DO NOT discuss settlement dollars on the phone. You should have gotten a formal settlement letter stating the settlement amount, what was being withheld as attorney %, case costs, what is being held back (25%) for lien resolution and what your 1st check will be. The second check comes much later after all liens are paid, a year or so after settlement. im wondering if $20,000 was the full amount, then after everything else is paid, you net $8500. Do you know who you talked with at the law firm? You should at least write a letter , not a call or email, to the firm stating what happened. Unfortunately, this wont increase your award if you had no surgeries but you will get to tell that story. It was irresponsible and emotionally distressing to you. That should not have happened. Also, it is my thinking that you cant ask for a special consideration from the Special Master until you have signed your settlement papers. Maybe others have clarification about that. Your attorney should be available to talk through any and every question that you have before you decide to accept or reject it.

  28. Theresa February 3, 2018 at 11:22 pm - Reply

    I just don’t think our insurance should be a part of it. It’s like a contract through work how much they pay for procedures,surgeries or whatever. It’s not our fault it was a bad product, so we are the ones having the trouble, ruined our bodies, they paid for our surgery,it was their responsibility, we are injured have to live with it.

  29. susan February 13, 2018 at 1:22 am - Reply

    Get in at tv talk shows so this greedy lawyer and manufacturer be expose.

  30. Hope May 1, 2018 at 4:50 pm - Reply

    I have a question for my mesh sisters. Have any of you encountered hip problems after mesh removal?

  31. Diane May 11, 2018 at 10:32 am - Reply

    I received my settlement packet yesterday in the mail. The Special Master had broke mine down in the percentage just as “Still Standing” presented to you in the note above. My case was litigated through West Virginia, and the settlement paperwork says they need to be careful as not to bankrupt them with the distributions of this pay out? However, My law firm, hired another law firm to help them, so the breakdown, is somewhat skewed… $50,000 -30% to first law firm the %15 to 2nd law firm who helped and I have no idea if I have any liens, then there is postage, letters, written, travel, etc that they take out of this, so I have no idea of what I will end up with, or when I will see this money…. I just thought I would let every know they are settling, but sigh…. sometimes, it is hard not to just throw your hands up!

    • Jane Akre May 11, 2018 at 3:37 pm - Reply

      Woa!!! 45% for a settlement? Sorry no!! 40% is a good plenty and they can take 5% to pay the referring firm…..You can say no to those numbers you know.

    • Still Standing May 14, 2018 at 11:33 pm - Reply

      Diane. Most law firms partner with other law firms with mass tort cases. Maybe one has a specialty that is needed by your primary firm. Some may have expertise in digital footprints, or conducting depositions. There could be many reasons, including sharing financial liability. However, you will not be charged a percentage higher than what you agreed to. So, if you contracted for 40% the two law firms split this 40%. However, 5% is what is charged to you for the MDL common fund. This is above what you contracted with your attorney for their cut. Many firms pay 4% of this andcyou pay 1%, but they dont have to do this for you. Could this be what is oined out in your settlement agreement? Based on what you said, your award is around $166,000. The attorneys will split $66,000, which would leave about $100,000. Then you owe 5% to the common fund, $8300, which leaves you about $92,000. You will definitely have case costs. Mine were very high because of five physician depositions (over $80,000. If you were not prepped for trial, case costs will be considerably less, maybe $10,000 to $15,000 so lets say $10,000, which will leave you with $82,000. I will guarantee that you will pay leins. Every insurance company or government provded insurance such as Medicare and Medicaid will have their hand out. Doctors and hospitals if you have any outstanding bills from them will be paid. If you ever filed for bankruptcy, these leins have to be paid from your award, too. The special master will negotiate the amounts down, but they recoup some of their costs. I had $1300/ month private health imsurance but still,had to pay leins over $50,000. So, the courts will hold back $41,000. So, you should get an initial check for around $40,000. It can be months before you get your initial check. It all depends on how fast the initial close out process takes. You get what remains from the lein hold back after a thorough lein resolution. This will take even longer. Mine took about a year, but it can be much longer. You will receive a final check for the $41,000 minus your leins, which could take half or more of what is held back. Your attorney cant give you an estimat about leins, but they should be able to provide you what you case costs are.

      • Jane Akre May 15, 2018 at 11:56 am - Reply

        Thank you Still….doesn’t seem quite right does it? I recently heard of a law firm that lowered its percentage in order to get the injured person to accept the settlement…. don’t expect your firm to do that, but hey, it’s worth asking isn’t it?

  32. Deanie July 3, 2018 at 11:25 am - Reply

    My Canadian lawyer worked through Motley Rice and I received a settlement amount verbally followed by documentation on the expenses I was responsible for. I was advised my senior age was one factor in the low amount offered. Septic shock from a perforated colon which lead to an ICU stay, many months in hospital and multiple surgeries was not recognized as a consequence of the mesh failure and therefore not compensated.
    When all expenses were paid (including tax on the lawyers fees and subrogation payments to our ‘free’ health care system) I actually received just over half of my settlement.
    Life span after a sepsis event is reduced (average life expectancy after sepsis is 8 years according to research I have read) so I accepted the settlement and am getting on with the remainder of my life.
    That all being said, it does not leave me satisfied with the results of my case but I have no complaints about the way my lawyer and his staff handled everything. From the initial offer to receiving the money took 7 months, five years after I initiated the case.

  33. Nanny J August 17, 2018 at 12:45 pm - Reply

    Are you all saying that if my original attorney sold or transferred my case to another firm that I am going to pay two attorneys? Also, I had people fly into my town with a court reporter and video of my deposition as if we were going to trial (so my attorney told me). Also, I was told by my attorney that they were going to take deposition from two doctors (OBGYN and Urologist) that performed an attempted removal the embedded mesh. Will my settlement be reduced by those expenses? If I must pay for those deposition then there’s something wrong with this picture. Wouldn’t those amounts come out of the 40% due the attorneys and the 5% fund you are referring to. Attorneys are making 40% just for adding my name to a list and spending maybe 10 hours (I’m being generous) typing paperwork and submitting to a judge (except for some of us with more surgeries). Seems everybody is on board to make $$$ from our bad experience with stupid doctors trying to just make a buck and manufacturers of a product that they knew was bad.

    • Jane Akre August 19, 2018 at 11:53 am - Reply

      I’m not an attorney but you are right that the 40% or 33.3% or whatever you signed on should be the cap and everything comes out of that. The 5% does NOT need to be paid by you since Judge Goodwin did not specify who is to pay it. The referral fee, if there is another law firm involved, should come out of the 40% is my understanding…. not more. Please let us know if you are being told something else…… Always check your retainer agreement. Also – in some cases, law firms are compromising on their fees in order to bring women to the settlement table. Think about it- the law firm will not be paid if you refuse, so compromising on fees is better than no $ at all. I’m not an attorney again, but have heard of that happening…

    • Still Standing August 19, 2018 at 11:57 pm - Reply

      Nanny, understanding the way civil lawsuits are conducted is difficult. There is no way to know unless you are going through it. Here are some hard realities of this process. We have to deal with what it is instead of wishing what it should be. There will be times for us to tey to make this system better for people to come and I plan to work toward that goal, but this is a rundown of what you pay for from your settlement dollars.
      1. your law firm will get the 40% cut from the top unless you signed anagreement for 33%, but either way that
      is their negotiated fee. If they partnered with another firm, that firm will share in the 40% fee. Law firms
      partner with other firms forms for many reasons. They might want to spread around their expenses, or have
      one firm do the depositions or research or work on settlement negotiations. The 5% is called the common
      fund. It is paid by every litigant for shared discovery in the MDL. It enable litigants the right to access
      discovery that would be prohibitively expensive for one plaintiff to gather. It is the clients responsibility to
      pay, although some lawfirms share that expense. For example, my law firm paid 4% and I paid 1%. I
      imagine this is more common with the law firms that have represented many cases. It is a courtesy offered
      by some firms, but it is not required.
      2. Yes, you will pay case costs above the 40%. If your case was made trial ready, you will,have considerable
      expenses. I wasnt quite prepared for the sticker shock, but I did know that case costs were additional.
      Depositions are very costly. Most of the doctors are charging $1500/ hour and that includes actual
      deposition time, travel time and case review by the doctor before the deposition. You can expect a hefty
      charge. One of my doctor depositiosn s was $15,000 just for the physician charge alone. Added to this
      cost is the court reporter, the videographer, cost of conference room rental, copys of depositions for
      plaintiff and defendant, and attorneys for both sides. They are very expensive and videographer is extra
      above court reporter. Travel costs of lodging, airfare and meals are
      there,too. You didn’t mention deposition for implanting physician. Mine refused to testify and had to be
      subpoenaed (extra dollars) when all was said and done, my case costs were more than $85,000. This was
      in addition to the 40% my attorney received.

      Believe me, if your case went to depositions, your attorney spent way more than 10 hours preparing your case. Who do you think made the travel arrangements, contacted and scheduled the physicians, looked over the facts of your case, prepared themselves and you for depositions. Did you have a deposition? Generally, the is the first one that is done. Im surprised if you didnt get deposed, but if not,you saved some cash. Here is the way I look at the 40% fee. Suppose you sign a 40% agreement and the settlement is $100’000. If the attorney takes 40% , that is $40,000 but if they paid case coss from that if it is a difficult negotiation, they could have 100 hours including, attorney, paralegal, other office staff. These are hours that they cannot bill out on contingency. Averag US hourly rate for attorneys is more than $300. So 100 hours ( which is only 2 1/2 weeks is worth $30,000. Add average paralegal costs, administrative costs, keeping the lights on, paying for insurance , other staff professionals and for their office space, paying interest on the money they borrowed to carry your case, etc would quickly eat up their 40%. Remember, if they were not representing plaintiffs on contingency, they could be straight billing for their services. So,this is the reason for the 40%. They have no idea going in what it will cost to litigate your case. Attorneys are people who have families to support, a life to live, too. It is not reasonable to assume that they are running a charitable organization.

      3. Another cost will be reimbirsement to insurance companies, medicare and medicaid, hospitals, etc who paid out for your care or who you owe money to have a right to collect reimbursement if settlement money is there. After your settlement is signed, the court will hold back 25% of your award for lein searches. The special master handles this, not your attorney. You will pay money back, even if you paid your insurance premiums and dont owe any money to hosoitals or doctors. So, back to the $100,000 example, $25,000 will be held back. It will take a year or more to get what is left of this amount. So, your first check will be $100,000 minus $40,000 for attorney, then minus $25,000 for lein resolution, which leaves $35,000 then minus $5000 your MDL fee if your lawyer doesnt pay which leaves $30,000 minus your case costs. If your case costs are $10,000( which is very low ball for a trial ready case), you would receive $20,000;then what is left after lein resolutions are completed.

      I want to stress that I belive the MDL system is a travesty that must be changed. There ARE disreputavle attorneys that went surfing for clients and promised the moon and failed to properly inform them. However, there are also many who have worked tirelessly within the system we have to get their clients compensation. I dont calll it justice.. Justice would be criminal charges and that is not going to happen here. There is not a monetary amount that serves justice. It is important to figure out how to move from what happened to what happens now. Money will not change many things. More surgery is not going to take away all pain. I guarantee that it wont. Jane knows my story and it is an ongoing series of tragedies for 10 years. Ive spent every bit of cognitive energy I have to stand up every day and find purpose. People all over the world have debilitating pain and disfigurement, children are starving or brutilized by war. Cancer strikes down thousands of people a year. Pain is part of the human condition. Our character is defined not by how much pain we have, but how we respond to it. So, if today is the best day you are going to have, how can you make it a good day? How can you make it count? I want future generations of my family to remember my persistence to live a good life in spite of my pain, not remember me as a victim of Bard mesh. I refuse to let Bard notch my life as a win for them.

      • Never the Same September 11, 2018 at 9:58 am - Reply

        Still Standing, are you an attorney, you speak with the knowledge of the process and defend attorneys, just curious.
        So I am confused, my attorney’s are trying to tell me that J&J wont release the funds until lien resolution is resolved on all claims their firm is handling, and I have been informed that my particular claim has no lien attachments. I have waited over a year since signing my settlement papers and no funds released. Are you saying that they will still hold 25%. And who exactly is holding these funds. It appears that money is being made by whom ever is holding these funds as interest is accumulating in some account. I personally believe that the legal system is just as flawed and has injured women as much as Big Pharma has, We have been forever damaged by the medical profession, who in my case told me I was crazy that nothing was wrong, until I finally dropped a tampon of pus in their laps, then they said it was way to difficult to undo. I had to move out of state to find a doctor to try to remove what he could. I as many others have mesh impended in my organs and have been told that I will most likely get bladder cancer from the mesh. So the medical profession, Big Pharma and now the attorneys we hired all have caused damage beyond compare. When will it stop when we are dead. My friends will tell you I am the most positive person around, but this is just more than I can take. It is so hard to keep the faith, keep smiling, try desperately to hold a job, when everything you hoped for in life is crumbling away. I will soon lose my home as I had to take a mortgage with a balloon payment due to credit issues cased by medical bills. I was told we would have the funds by now, and I would not have a problem. I appreciate the opportunity to get things off my chest as it builds up so bad that often times you can’t see any light at the end of the tunnel. Thank you Jane and this community for being here to support all of us. God Bless

        • Jane Akre September 11, 2018 at 11:57 am - Reply

          Never- thanks for writing but your story is horrendous. There must be some help for you…. I will write privately…..or write me at janeakre@meshnewsdesk.com No Still standing is not a lawyer but is very wise.

        • Still Standing September 12, 2018 at 1:28 am - Reply

          No, I am not an attorney nor do I wholesale defend them, but I also know my attorneys did not cause my problems. They are not doing anything criminal. They are working within a flawed system for sure, but they cant be blamed for that system. The federal judges set up the MDLs and assign civil cases to different federal courts. There are currently over 70 MDLs in the US. It is not just mesh women who are hurt by bad drugs and medical devices. So who else in the US is making any effort to help us?

          I do understand your frustration. Last Friday I met with three surgeons at Mayo clinic. I had been there doing testing for three weeks. I was also there for three weeks in June. They delivered catastrophic news and Thursday I will go back for surgery on the 20th to remove my rectum, my entire vagina, my colon and possibly more. I will have an ileostomy and maybe a urostomy. They said mine is so complicated and very difficult because mesh has eroded into my rectum right at my anal sphincter and that it is two skin layers from puncturing which most likely would kill me. They also said I could die in surgery but I have no choice. They said that surgery may take 8 hours. A very aggressive autoimmune disease, most likely from mesh has ulcerated my mouth, my vulva, and vagina, my esohagus and not just small ulcers but it has consumed all surfaces. Adhesions have impacted my digestive system clear through. My stomach cant be mobile enough to contract and push food out. It takes hours to digest what most people can in two hours. Im scared, terrified actually. I’ve been physically fit my entire life, hiking, kayaking, gardening, cycling, i spent ten years as a national disaster responder for the Red Cross. I worked in the rubble of 9/11 for more than a month, went to fires and tornadoes, floods…..i planned to do that often when I retired. It was hard but emotionally fulfilling work. I ran a hospice program for twenty years. I’ve served on national pain initiatives. But , then I had my own disaster thanks to mesh in 2008 and just like that, my plans changed.

          I am acutely aware how mesh changes lives, but I made a decision to figure out how to live the best I could despite 8 major surgeries, intractable pain, despite my life hanging in tatters. Sunday night I sat down with my 9 year old granddaughter and we watched a video on the American Ostomy Association website, explaining how I will have holes in my tummy and wear bags. She hasn’t been told much this past year when I have been so sick and unable to spend as much time with her as before. We are very close. She looked up and said “Grammy, I was afraid you were dying. Then she patted my leg and said “Grammy, you can do this.” She didn’t care one bit that I will have stuff coming out of my body for the world to see. I will take her positive affirmations with me through all of this so I will be reminded to sit back on my terrible days and say WOW, what a blessing to be loved so honestly and innocently by this precious child.

          I would be grateful for prayers any of you can offer up. They said I will be in the hospital for weeks and recovery will be months. I continue to pray for healing and strengh for all women who have mesh and their families, understanding that there are more ways to be healed than physically. Ill take that healing in any way it comes. There is a beautuful world out there and we all are part of that world that we deserve to thrive in. We owe it our best shot.

          • Jane Akre September 12, 2018 at 1:45 am

            I’m so sorry Still….you don’t deserve this… no one does. We will pray for you on the 20th…. can we stay in touch to find out how you did?

          • Never the same September 13, 2018 at 12:43 pm

            Still, I will keep you in my prayers, none of us deserve the suffering the medical mesh has caused us. I refuse to justify the actions and abuse of the courts, attorneys and pharmaceutical companies and the medical profession. They have taken advantage of our misfortune for profit and in my opinion the attorneys have caused this situation to be far worse than it should have been. Advertising to solicit clients who may or may not have incurred injuries due to mesh have muddy the waters for those truly injured. Most law firms never had any intention of going to court and many sold the cases multiple times. This has been a travesty on many counts. I pray that you have successful surgeries and a speedy recovery. God bless you.

  34. Still Standing September 13, 2018 at 8:53 am - Reply

    Yes,Jane. I will let you know. I’m on On my way! E taking me to Mayo. Hard to believe where I will be doing this time next Thursday. Hate it, but I’ll figure out this new way to live sooner or later

    • Jane Akre September 13, 2018 at 12:46 pm - Reply

      You are an inspiration to many, your attitude and positivity is something others should take note of!

      • Still Standing September 14, 2018 at 12:09 am - Reply

        Jane, thank you for saying that. It certainly isnt all,sunshine and roses here. But, Ive been involved in pain research and education for about 5 years, driven to that by my mesh implant. Science has demostrated over and over again the power of the mind for healing, and specifically pain management. One theory is called the Positivity ratio, which suggests that for every negative thought, you need to have three positive thoughts to balance things out. This does not mean you will be deliriously happy nor does it mean you pretend that everything is just fine. But, it does mean that learning to reframe a negative thought with less angry words and responses is emotionally and physically healing. If all you are feeding yourself is negative self-talk, think about ways you can change your words and thoughts to kinder language that does not add to your suffering.

  35. Nanny J September 24, 2018 at 6:22 pm - Reply

    Jane and Still Standing,
    Thank you for responding. I appreciate it very much and Still S. we are all praying for you. What you are going through is horrible and no one should have to endure this. While I understand there is nothing free in this world and there are worse situations that perhaps some women here are enduring; and, that there are parasites that feed off societies errors and mistreatment of each other that doesn’t make this situation right. I don’t think there are any of here who don’t realize this but we just want these doctors who knew much more than they were telling us and large pharmaceutical companies making billions of $$ to pay damages for cheating us out of what they assured us was the best way forward when they knew different. I asked my urologist about side effects and was told that this was the best out there with fewer side effects and far less downtime. I think it was faster for him and I found out later that it was already out that there were problems with mesh implants and he failed to tell me that. He saw $$$ and when I went back with problems he said” your fine but you MIGHT see your Obgyn”. Seriously, the Obgyn and new Urologist told me the mesh had grown into my colon, vaginal tissue and muscle on left side (which was causing increasing pain sitting and really bad when standing). Those two doctors contradicted the original urologist statements one month after the original doctor said you’re fine! So, maybe I should have just forgotten all this lawsuit and gone after the urologist that lied to me in the first place, but now the statute of limitations is probably gone. Now that I understand a little more about this process, my one real problem with all this money issue is—why would I receive less than a person who had no second or third surgeries; the stress of depositions, video simulated court reporting with attorneys from J & J with all their accusatory comments and questions that border on ridiculous, some extremely embarrassing which actually had nothing to do with pain and was actually none of their business? I’m glad all of us don’t need to go through all that extra “stuff” but, at the same time, why should I receive less than those of us who didn’t go through all that, intimidation and blame game. When one comes out of one of those sessions you begin to feel like it’s all your fault you got up that morning and are still breathing.And I do understand that these attorneys deserve a right to make a living but if you multiply that 40% or even 33% times the number of women involved these attorneys and their assistants are not starving and neither are their children. But whatever happened to common decency and the want to do what is correct and be treated with some respect and fairness and not have parasites feeding on our misfortune. The original surgery plus a second very lengthy surgery, a ten day hospital stay, going home with a tube still coming out your belly and then having attorneys from J & J treat you like you’re a criminal when they should be apologizing to us. Perhaps we women would have been smarter to have banded together, gone after some of these Urologist by hiring some of these starving attorneys ourselves. Nanny j

  36. tired of waiting November 2, 2018 at 10:28 am - Reply

    I just got my settlement paperwork and I am disgusted. No final figures, just what they have offered minus everything. They even want the 5% from me for the fund. I feel that this whole ordeal has been for nothing.

    • Jane Akre November 2, 2018 at 12:48 pm - Reply

      I’m sorry. Tell them to pay the 5%. Judge Goodwin did not specify who should pay it. They can…..have them negotiate down your medical expenses or liens etc. They can take less than 40% as well….. I know a contract is a contract, but everything may be negotiable. Doesnt hurt to try. They should not take home more than you, even considering subrogation….Not a lawyer NAL.

  37. tired of waiting November 2, 2018 at 8:50 pm - Reply

    Jane what about the final figures? They want me to settle, but settle what? I’m not signing to settle when I have no idea what the bottom line is. This is such a joke.

  38. tired of waiting November 5, 2018 at 8:38 am - Reply

    Here’s a breakdown of what they charging me for my expenses and fees for my settlement:

    Attorneys fees
    Case specific costs
    Common Benefit or group costs
    Administrative costs
    5% fund

    I don’t get a break down until I except the settlement offer .I just can’t bring myself to sign it as it’s presented to me.

    • Jane Akre November 5, 2018 at 10:50 am - Reply

      You make a very good point. The breakdown for your lost life would look like what?
      Loss of consortium,
      loss of income,
      loss of joy of life,
      pain and suffering,
      ongoing medical care and costs,
      loss of….. (You fill in the blank)….

      Who exactly is in charge here? I think we know the answer to that.

    • Still Standing November 5, 2018 at 11:14 pm - Reply

      Tired, the common benefit fund is the same as the 5% fund. Jane is right. Some attorneys are sharing that cost and they should. It is actually the non committee attorneys paying the leadership team for their work that benefits them all. My attorney paid 4% and I paid 1%, but look at your contract you sgned with them. If you agreed to pay the 5% you may not have anything to make tthem reduce. I think it could come to the relationshp you have with them.

      If they told you the settled offer, then told you what your case costs ( this should be the administrative costs) , their negotiated fee and the common fund costs, those are clear cut. The lien costs are fuzzier. The court requires that 25% of your settlement award be held back until a lien search is done, which is only done after you settle. Generally, a special master does this, not your attorney. The Special master will do lien search and negotiate a pay back. This is generally pennies on the dollar. After those lien payments are settled then you will get what is lefft over, if there is any left over. This could take over a year. If Mediiare, Mecaid, or private insurance paid any of your bills for mesh complications, then they will get some of your award. The 25% is based on your total award, not just what you personally end up with after fees.

  39. tired of waiting November 6, 2018 at 9:08 am - Reply

    I used my private insurance, no loans or outstanding medical debt.

    • Still Standing November 6, 2018 at 6:11 pm - Reply

      I had private insurance as well. I was 58:when I had the surgery. I was paying $1300 a month for my blue cross blue shield imsurance plan. I lived in an anti-subrogation state and thought they could not take money back. I was completely shocked to see what they clawed back. If there is money, they will take it.

      • Jane Akre November 6, 2018 at 7:32 pm - Reply

        Someone called me today about a 10 year old discharged bankruptcy. I would think the books on that had been closed. Anybody?

        • Still Standing November 7, 2018 at 12:02 am - Reply

          Jane, bankruptcy even years ago can be taken out of settlement. The people you owed money to when declaring bankruptcy have a legitimate claim on those dollars. It depends on the state law if you can claim any exemptions. Was the bankruptcy a Chapter 7 or 13? Did your personal injury attorney go through the proper procedures as far as notifying the court of the outstanding bankruptcy status.

          • Jane Akre November 7, 2018 at 12:20 am

            Chapter 7 and dismissed….shouldnt that be the end of it????

  40. tiredofwaiting January 14, 2019 at 7:40 am - Reply

    Approximately how long is it taking before settlement checks start rolling out? My deadline to have my packet in was November 19th 2018. I was initially told 6 weeks.

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