Judge Goodwin Calls Pelvic Mesh Makers to Court This Week

//Judge Goodwin Calls Pelvic Mesh Makers to Court This Week

Judge Goodwin Calls Pelvic Mesh Makers to Court This Week

Judge Joseph R. Goodwin, overseeing bellwether mesh trials

Judge Joseph R. Goodwin, overseeing bellwether mesh trials


MND, Nov 16, 2015 ~ In non-legal language you could say Judge Joseph R. Goodwin, who is overseeing  nearly 90,000 pelvic mesh cases in his Charleston, WV courtroom, is calling all hands on desk this week.

Pretrial Order #200, signed October 16, says a mesh conference will commence Wednesday, November 18 and continue through the 19, convening representatives of the seven mesh manufacturers and lawyers representing the women who allege they were injured by the company’s transvaginal mesh products.

In the order, Judge Goodwin specifies executives from Ethicon (MDL 2327), a Johnson & Johnson subsidiary, be present to make sure they are receiving the full story on litigation from their counsel.

The order calls, “defendant client representative(s) with full authority to make all decisions related to MDL 2327; in house counsel for defendant(s) with full authority to make all decisions related to MDL 2327; settlement counsel (if any) for defendant(s) and lead counsel for plaintiffs and defendant(s) attend the status conference. 

All of the MDLs are listed except for Neomedic.

TSL & Sofradim, Bard, AMS and Boston Scientific have hour long meetings scheduled beginning at 1:30 (except for TSL & Sofradim), while Cook, Coloplast and Ethicon meet with Judge Goodwin on Thursday, November 19.

See PTO #200 here. 



As of November 4, there were 84,394 pelvic mesh cases consolidated in multidistrict litigation (MDL) in federal court in Charleston, West Virginia. Most manufacturers have commenced in some form of settlements with injured Plaintiffs, with the exception of Ethicon, which has nearly 30,000 cases filed in this court, the largest of any manufacturer.

According to its November report to the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), Ethicon is facing in excess of 44,400 transvaginal mesh lawsuits.

American Medical Systems (Endo) reports in its recent SEC report it is facing 25,000 mesh claims; Boston Scientific in excess of 27,000; and C.R. Bard outlines 20,400 in its latest SEC report.   Coloplast is a Danish company and Cook Medical is privately held so there is no government requirement it outline outstanding litigation to shareholders.

Outstanding mesh litigation could presently exceed 120,000 defective product lawsuits filed among the seven mesh manufacturers, an unprecedented number of cases over one issue.


Prolene mesh and particles

Prolene mesh and particles


In other court news, the December 7, trial of 39 women implanted with Ethicon’s TVT (transvaginal tape)  has been moved to April 11, 2016.

The November 10 order was signed by Judge Joseph R. Goodwin. Document #229 says that the consolidated trial  with the 39 cases as identified in  PTO #184 (here), shall commence on April 11, 2016 at 8:30 am. The trial is limited to seven days, exclusive of jury deliberations, on a claim of design defect.

See Doc #229 Mullins et al 2:12-cv-02952. 

These women all have the same mesh the TVT (transvaginal tape) made by Ethicon to treat stress urinary incontinence (SUI).  The physicians vary among the Plaintiffs but all of the surgeries were performed in West Virginia over a 12 year period of time and each woman is a resident of the state.

They originally claimed negligence, design defect, defective product, manufacturing defect, failure to warn, breach of express warranty, breach of implied warranty and punitive damages. They are consolidated because there are common questions of law or fact and the women suffer similar injuries including mesh erosion, contraction, infection, fistula, inflammation, scar tissue, organ perforation, dyspareunia, urinary problems, neuropathic and chronic nerve damage and pain, pudendal nerve damage, chronic pain, among other problems.

Judge Goodwin is mindful that consolidation saves the parties the cost of litigating multiple separate trials.  See Rule 42a under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure here.

Judge decided last July to consolidate the 39 cases on the issue of design defect.  The design defect claim will potentially affect thousand of other pelvic mesh design defect claims.


Ethicon mesh and blue particles

Ethicon mesh and blue particles


You may recall the images of the flecks of blue mesh seen in packages of Ethicon mesh that was delivered to Taiwan in 2010. Within the sealed package, the pelvic mesh appeared to be disintegrating. See MND background story here.

In Pretrial order  #204, filed 11-12-15, (PTO #204), J&J/Ethicon wants to prohibit Plaintiffs from taking a deposition related to various manufacturing issues and particle loss.

Magistrate Judge Cheryl A. Eifert writes the Plaintiffs should be permitted to inquire of a Rule 30b6 witness about manufacturing issues that arose in 2010 in Taiwan and regarding matters related to or arising from the Taiwanese product recalls. However, Plaintiffs can’t ask about generic manufacturing issues related to all TVT products since their inception.

Stay tuned!


By | 2015-11-16T00:52:25+00:00 November 16th, 2015|News|168 Comments

About the Author:

I’m National News Editor, Jane Akre and I began Mesh Medical Device News Desk aka Mesh News Desk (MND) in the summer of 2011 just after the Food and Drug Administration issued an explicit warning to the public that complications associated with surgical mesh used for prolapse repair (POP) and incontinence (SUI) are NOT rare! That was the starting point for the litigation you see today and thousands of lawsuits have been filed by women whose lives have been altered, some permanently, by the use of this petroleum-based product.


  1. anonymous November 16, 2015 at 7:57 am - Reply

    I’m glad the judge Goodwin is calling everybody to the courtroom to try to get settlements done but the sad thing about all of this is that someone has to get it in their head that the catastrophically hurt people will not take two or three or four hundred thousand dollars in payment we are the people that will never be able to work again we are the ones that will have to live in pain every single day of our lives I don’t know if the manufacturers can’t get it through their head but some of us will lose 500 thousand to a million dollars (some have lost their businesses ), in wages not to mention past and future medical costs plus we are losing the lives we once lived living in pain everyday on medication trying to fix one thing only to have other problems pop up all of these to be settled if the medical companies would just stand up and pay us what we deserve I was a perfectly healthy woman living a very active life now all I can do is lay around and try to get thur the pain everyday and it is sad that no one seems to get it why are we not getting these lawsuits settled because people are smart enough not to take pennies all I want them to do is pay me for what I will lose I don’t even give a crap about punitive damages at this point anymore I just want to start my life over the best I can and make it through each and every day with some dignity. They can never pay me enough money for what they’ve taken from my life but now they continue to make me suffer by making me wait and wait and wait for a decent respectable settlement amount every day that they wait it’s like putting gas on a fire and it makes me more and more pissed off at them and then when I hear about J&J and the crap there’s pulling I just get sick to my stomach. Is there no justice for people who were innocently hurt catastrophically or however for the rest of their life judge Goodwin if you read these posts then tell these companies to stop messing around pay these women for what they have lost and let’s all get on with our life by Christmas I won’t even go into it judge Goodwin what I have lost because there is so much that it would take 3 pages to fill it up point of law judge Goodwin we deserve to be paid for loss of income at least we deserve to be paid for permanently being disabled we deserve medical cost and so much more but if they would step up up and pay people for those things I think people would be more willing to settle I don’t want to speak for everyone but I’m sick to death of this I’m sick to death of worrying every month whether or not I’m going to have a house to live in or to be able to pay my electricity or keep me warm especially with winter coming if it was any other situation any good responsible judge would order compensation for damages for wages and physical permanent disability and medical costs but until that happens judge Goodwin you’re going to be dealing with this for a long long time you may even meet your maker before these all get settled why because of these medical companies I think these women are reasonable sensible women none of us want to get rich or just getting rich sake we want to get well and learn to live the best we can we live in hell already and continue to go through that many of us still need surgery that we can’t afford why because were permanently disabled we are. broke we paid for everything we can up to this point out of our own pockets many of us and we still have to suffer this is almost as insane as the people that go around killing people for no reason it’s absolutely in saying that we have to fight to get paid for what they did to us especially when there’s one hundred percent evidence that we were healthy well before match and after well I’ve already stated it many times we live in hell judge Goodwin I know you can’t set the amounts and in some ways I’m glad about that but you need to have a come to Jesus meeting with these people and tell him to get their heads out of their derrieres and start paying these people what they deserve only then will these meetings stop and you can go into retirement sir

    • Jane Akre November 16, 2015 at 10:54 am - Reply

      Not to mention the people who are settling for $40k BEFORE any fees are taken out… leaving you with virtually nothing. Many people are just saying NO!!! Go back and negotiate for a lifetime of pain and medical management. Get a pudendal nerve diagnosis and a life care plan!

      • jade November 20, 2015 at 12:01 pm - Reply

        Hi, Jane – Any reporting on the outcome of the two-day Goodwin/Manufacturers conference on Nov 18th & 19th? It has been SO long and today in accessing this site I realized that the stories just keep “slipping away”. Linda Batista’s photo with the red rose in now second down on the page. It seems prophetic about what is happening to all victims – we just eventually get buried and forgotten – visually and literally. We are “Love Canal” and you have become our “Julia Roberts”. Thank you.

      • Diva 64 November 24, 2015 at 11:37 am - Reply

        How could anyone expect a woman involved in TVS law suit to accept 40K, her attorney is going to get 33%-40%. The balance would not cover even one surgery, to help her, or any other medical expenses she will occur throughout life caused by the TVS. Not to mention pain and suffering. Did someone forget to add the zeros behind the $40K. Please don’t settle for something like that. You have either been newly implanted and have no idea of the pain you face as well as all the other health conditions you will face related to that sling.. Just sign me as a long time suffering patient or part of the TVS research failure.

        • Sharon December 13, 2015 at 8:52 pm - Reply

          Yes sad but Iam going through a lot of pain can’t even bath without getting sick , can’t carry or shop my daily chores has been lost needed a nurse to do for me because of surgical mesh that was placed in me , l just found out why my health was failing me a month ago it has been over two years sence been placed so how can I get help ! When I was told that I will need major surgery to have it taken out I am afraid of me getting worst ! Do u know someone that can help me ? LMK please

          • Jane Akre December 14, 2015 at 8:43 am

            Where are you located Sharon?

      • Sharon December 1, 2015 at 10:58 am - Reply

        Where and with Whom do I get this Nerve diagnosis and Life Care Plan? Anyone in the Kansas City Area?

        • Jane Akre December 1, 2015 at 3:58 pm - Reply

          Sharon. Greg Vigna is a doctor and a lawyer. He is offering discounted life care plans. See his ad on Mesh News Desk. Just click his photo and there is a toll free number. He is the only one I know who is offering this…..since he is both professions.

    • Anonymous Anonymous November 16, 2015 at 12:32 pm - Reply

      You took the words right out of my mouth Anonymous I can never work again that alone is close to a million until I would have retired I take medication after medication to try to ease the pain strong narcotic medications which doesn’t take all the pain away.It seems that one thing after another happens to you because of having this mesh put in and having surgeries to take it out.I have had to have other surgeries to take away numbness in my hands and fingers because I get pain going through my hips up my back down my arms to my fingertips that make them numb,because of most likely nerve damage from revision surgeries.I now have Type Two Diabetes I never had this until after the revision surgery but as of so far they can’t prove its from the revision surgery but I do know it’s still in the research stage so it could or couldn’t be.Im just scared of what the future holds for me and my husband and family as this effects not just myself it effects all around me what children wants to see there mother in constant pain but I try my best to hide it from them,what husband wants to see there wife go through all of this hell not knowing what to do to take away the pain.Judge Goodwin if you do read some of these post sir please try to get these manufacturers come to there senses I to just want to get on with my life knowing that I won’t lose our house that The bills will be paid that food is in the house and not have to worry I just want a fair settlement so I know I’m looked after as I can’t work due to this mesh.

  2. anonymous November 16, 2015 at 8:03 am - Reply

    Sorry that was supposed to be mesh not match ladies all I can say is keep praying that’s the only thing that gets me through you have to have faith in God that he’ll take care of this maybe we won’t even get to see how he takes care of it but I can guarantee you these people will have to stand before him one day and I hope they get exactly what they deserve

  3. Johnny Carter November 16, 2015 at 9:37 am - Reply

    So what does this mean for the people

    • Jane Akre November 16, 2015 at 10:53 am - Reply

      This means he is pushing settlements AND he wants the executives there so they can get the real story, not just some sugar coated version by their lawyers who are making millions off protracted litigation, is my understanding.

      • anonymous November 16, 2015 at 11:42 am - Reply

        Jane perhaps you should let Judge Goodwin know that you are publishing this article so he can see why people are not taking the settlement you said he reads your column call his office let him know this article is out there let him read what the women are saying then perhaps on the 18th will know exactly what and why the women are not taking these settlements

        • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 12:05 pm - Reply

          I have reason to believe he is seeing these pages……

          • Krisstee November 6, 2016 at 1:36 pm

            My lawyer told me if I don’t accept this offer from CR bard but if I take it to trial I could lose everything I am now had to 1 partial removal 14 removal two revisions because of the holes in my bladder I have nerve damage wheelchair-bound not sure if I’ll ever walk again and won’t know if I have to have any more surgeries until I go back on the 29th of this month November. My lawyer also told me that CR bard cut off all surgery dates as of October 15th 2016 is that true or false. I have so many problems and so much pain I don’t know what to do. If I go to trial will that be my lawyer is going to trial or different lawyer and how could I lose everything if I did go to trial. I also have Johnson & Johnson I don’t know which part of the cat was CR Bard and which part was Johnson & Johnson any idea what to do please email me if you can

          • Jane Akre November 6, 2016 at 4:05 pm

            Kristee, trial is always a crap shoot, no one can tell you if you will be before a jury but the odds are you will. Look at the story filed on Friday as to the 32 cases with only six defense wins so far. Trial will take a long time, then the other side will appeal, they count on those of you most injured not to go that route. What kind of person does that? What kind of corporation does that?

  4. EDIE WILLIS November 16, 2015 at 10:01 am - Reply

    I do not have a very good lawyer & so I don’t get any New or Old News’s for that matter! My suit has been filled now for about 4 year’s. I have done nothing but run into brick wall’s with these doctors around here ( nobody here does ANY REMOVAL;S) I found the closest Doctor to me is DR.V in ST LOUIS,MO.I have sent my records to his office they need a couple more paper’s and are going to make me an appointment. Soon I hope! So I get most of my New’s from this site & just keeping up with what I can on the internet.

    I pray all this will come to a close for me & the thousands of other woman that suffer so badly, that someone will listen and all this pain & suffering will stop! My kidney’s have shut down twice now because SEPTIC SHOCK! and I stay with UTI INFECTION’S (as the rest of the woman) Until the kidney failure none of my doctor’s ,my gyn (who was the first 4 years ago found my bladder wasn’t empting, nor the 3 urologist’s ever said anything to me about self cathing until the shut down of my kidney’s! Now I cath 4 time’s a day!

    • Jane Akre November 16, 2015 at 10:52 am - Reply

      I’m so sorry….. best of luck on your removal plans…. you are with a good expert doc.

    • countrylady November 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm - Reply


      Please please try to get out to Dr Raz at UCLA in California he will do his bets to help. Ucla takes most insurance I am not sure DR V takes any insurance a he is a plastic surgeon.

      • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 1:06 pm - Reply

        Carerful here. Dr Veronikis is NOT a plastic surgeon…….if that’s who you are referring to.

    • Valerie November 18, 2015 at 4:39 am - Reply


      My bladder does not empty completely either. I have had a kidney stone and now I have an autoimmune disease. They think it’s fibro. I’m looking to speak to other women who can give me info so that I can try to get I. Front if all the health issues I need to be alert for. I will be praying for you. I am still trying to brainstorm ways to create a support group locally.


      • Judy November 21, 2015 at 9:34 am - Reply

        I had Ethicon Mesh inserted in 2009. For 4 years I was having issues with hand pain and was having my hands injected for tendinitis. In 2013 after having additional bladder surgeries; I opted to have the mesh removed. I always felt like I was being pricked with pins and very swollen. Once the mesh was removed my hands returned to normal in a few weeks. I believe it was a reaction to having the mesh in my body. While I still have vaginal nerve pain, sometimes feel swollen after being on my feet all day and have a bladder that needs to be emptied frequently; I am feeling much better. My doctor also advised I use Estrace cream to help build up the vaginal walls, bladder exercises have helped and luckily the scar tissue is keeping my bladder where it is suppose to be. I would encourage anyone with the mesh to have it removed ASAP. Something that comes with a safety data sheet should never be implanted in a human being. In addition, the way the mesh is attached to the bone may cause bone infections. Good luck to everyone and I hope the courts do what is right and just. I will never be the same but I am grateful to be better than I was for four years.

    • Kevin November 20, 2015 at 7:54 am - Reply


      I just had to give a reply with my wife’s and I experience. She got her mesh out in March of 2014 from DR. V in ST. Louis. He did a great job in getting it all out. Recovery was a little tough. Her bladder is still pretty messed up. She, like you has to still cath about 4 times daily and cannot empty all the way. We lost insurance for a time, but getting it back now and she is going to OU Medical for further treatment. I’m sorry for your issues, hang in there. Best thing is to get it out and then keep going back for treatment. The Bladders and nerves get so damaged from that Mesh, it’s crazy!!!

    • Kelly November 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm - Reply

      My heart goes out to you and especially every one that is going through this. I too am going throught the same thing. No one here wants to take this out. They have done revisions but not fully taken the mesh out. I still live every day in pain like everyone else. The doctor I went to said that he wouldn’t take it out until something goes wrong. Well, something has. I am not emptying my bladder and my white blood cell is high. Whats up with that? They can’t seem to find out why that is high. Also, I just found out that I have diabetes. Never had that either. They put me on metformin for now and trying diet change. I am so pissed by all of this. I want this all to be over. This is a nightmare and it is never-ending. Well best of luck to you all! Take care. Kelly from Harrsiburg, Pa.

    • Bev Kramer November 25, 2015 at 12:35 am - Reply

      Do go see Dr Raz. He is the very best at fully removing the mesh. Do your research.

      He is just a plane ride away.

      You can stay at the Tiverton House for only $30 per day. Just across the street.

      Good Luck; Bev

  5. stopmeshimplants November 16, 2015 at 10:42 am - Reply

    Hi Jane,

    We all know there are thousands and thousands of people who have been implanted with mesh who have not yet experienced their first complication but will sometime during their lifetime. And we also know there are thousands of people who are having pain issues who have not yet linked them to their mesh implants. These numbers will continue to climb and yet no one can do anything to stop more people from being devastated by these products. I want to believe Judge Goodwin will do the right thing and come down on these manufacturers to settle. However, we all have been waiting anxiously for years and nothing happens. Yes, I have become a pessimist but I am forever grateful for you. Thank you for all you do for us.

    • Jane Akre November 16, 2015 at 10:51 am - Reply

      You are welcome. I have just signed an agreement with a marketing company that will host a Legal Chat option for those new folks. They can connect with a lawyer right away. This doesn’t affect those of you already represented, but yes, you are right, there are many more down the road yet to come forward. I set this site up with no marketing strategy so 4 years later, I’m learning.

      • toni November 16, 2015 at 4:44 pm - Reply

        wondering why we are hearing all this news about WV Goodwins court but nothing from new jersey courts were mine is filed and has been for almost 2 yrs

        • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 12:20 pm - Reply

          Here is the calendar for now Bergan Co NJ.


          As of today, the system shows there are 1,924 Bard cases and 8,548 Gynecare (J&J, Ethicon) cases filed there.

          • payton November 18, 2015 at 6:01 pm

            what about for cases against c.r. bard in south jersey

          • Jane Akre November 19, 2015 at 11:07 am

            Checking.. Can you ask your lawyer and get back?

          • Janet November 19, 2015 at 12:32 pm


            Does anyone know how the hearing with Boston scientific the last couple of days

            Was there any good outcome for any of us

          • Janet November 19, 2015 at 1:47 pm

            Phoned my attorneys office regarding to see how the meeting with judge goodwin and manufacturers

            Was advised they did not know about any of it

            This is how this law firm answers all questions to regarding court meetings, trials, settlement talks

            So how can we find out anything about our cases

            It’s just like the manufacturers holding against us our health

          • Jane Akre November 19, 2015 at 3:32 pm

            It is possible your law firm was not at the meeting because they are co-counsel. For 5% of your case, they pass it along to another lawf irm that MAY work it up. That’s how it works and that’s why many law firms do not have answers for you.

          • Advocate November 23, 2015 at 12:11 pm


            Please understand the meeting was a STATUS update conference. There was no discussion about individual cases or even blocks of cases, that apply as you might have expected. They weren’t there to discuss settlement numbers or anything remotely close to that. The conferences are meant to update Judge Goodwin on whatever progress is being made, or not made, with each of the manufacturers and plaintiff counsel. Both sides tell the judge where they are having difficulties or if there is any confusion on directions the court has issued. This also allows the judge to determine if he needs to apply more pressure or go in a different direction, to move things along.

            By including management of the manufactures in this one, Judge Goodwin was insuring they heard his mandates on expectations to advance the negotiations. Judge Goodwin typically calls for these meetings monthly by telephone attendance, but as in this occasion, he might call all of them before him, so he can make his points more emphatically.

            Hope this allows you a better understanding of the meeting and why your attorney would probably not have involvement.

          • Jane Akre November 23, 2015 at 12:25 pm

            Thank you.

    • Emmie November 17, 2015 at 3:35 am - Reply

      Dear. Stopmeshimplants:

      You are so correct about the new mesh victims not linking their new health issues to their mesh implants. I was told how great my life would be with “the new gold standard” and I trusted my doctor to make good on his promise.

      It took me over 5 years (plus minus my gall bladder during that time…which was not necessary) of running from one doctor to another trying to seek help with the pain I was experiencing;. When all along I am sure my “DR. GOLD” understood it was my mesh implants. When you are in bed with J&J, of course, you will take sides with them to hide a defective product that they paid “Dr. GOLD” lots of $,$$$,$$$ to promote. Yes six figures and more $$$.

      Year #1……Prolift and TVT-S which failed to correct my prolapse and incontinence. So “Dr. GOLD” says he will implant the

      TVT-O in Year #2 which also failed me. No answer from “DR.GOLD” to why he did not take the 2 failed mesh implants out when he implanted #3 mesh???

      So I have 3 mesh and 8 hooks implanted in my pelvic area and groin …HOOKS..something never explained to me until recently….and now my legs are giving out on me with no warning that would give me enough time to get ready for the fall to my knees. (recent new problem) I am afraid to have mesh removal surgery and in the same thought, afraid not to have the removal surgery. I lost my trust in doctors and also fear what the future holds for me.

      “DR GOLD”, Johnson&Johnson / Ethicon, took my “great peeing on myself life” away from me all because of marketing greed. So in return, I get to pee on myself again except with pain and while I once again wear Depends. If only I could go back in time. Now it is my calling to tell.other women…don’t do mesh. J&J covers up their conduct by. “LOSING” / “DELETING” mesh documents and emails from their databases.

      Pharmaceutical companies are out for the almighty $. They don’t care about their victims and get support by donating to doctors, government / politicians.

      How can this happen in our great “USA”? As you can see from the time of my comment, I also lost the joy of a good night’s sleep too. I cry for myself and other victims….DEAR GOD HELP AND HEAL US MESS VICTIMS…..PLEASE!!!

      • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 11:59 am - Reply

        I’m so sorry Emmie,,,, do you have competent medical care? I’ve heard it so many times, women wish they could just go back to their old incontinent self. How about a return to non mesh repairs? Are doctors even taught that in medical school anymore?

      • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 11:59 am - Reply

        I’m so sorry Emmie,,,, do you have competent medical care? I’ve heard it so many times, women wish they could just go back to their old incontinent self. How about a return to non mesh repairs? Are doctors even taught that in medical school anymore?

      • countrylady November 17, 2015 at 12:28 pm - Reply

        Emmie: Is your Dr. Gold by chance from Allentown, Pennsylvania and made millions as a spokesman from Ethicon last name starts with L?

        If so, I went to him trying to find out what was wrong with me years ago. He insisted it was not the mesh and gave me a point injection and told me I needed to be on Premarin cream( I was already but this is all they tell you to do).

        The one thing I did not like about him was he would not look at me at all when he talked- he looked at the wall. I thought that was weird and started to look online and actually contacted Lana Keeton to ask if she heard anything about him. She left me know he was involved big time with mesh manufactures. I had no idea, my family Dr sent me to him after I told her I had been going to Dr to Dr for years with no help with the pain and had no idea what was wrong but suspected it was from my bladder lift.

        Long story short I was suppose to go back to Dr L for another series of injections but did not because I did not feel comfortable with him.

        I got a copy of my surgical report (tried 3 times before the hospital actually sent me the implant information) and saw I had J+ J’s TVT-O mesh implanted. No DR L did not implant the mesh in me- he insisted the implanting Dr. was at fault and it was not the mesh.

        I found a different Dr. 2 hours away from me who did the same point injection and also she sent me to pelvic floor therapy. None of that worked. After going to several more Doctors with no help I went out to Dr Raz who removed the mesh. The pulling pain and sharp pain is gone.

        • countrylady November 17, 2015 at 1:00 pm - Reply

          Dr Raz had found I had Erosion how could DR L not have see that!

        • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 1:03 pm - Reply


        • Emmie November 19, 2015 at 1:56 am - Reply


          Did Dr. L implant your TVT-O? Or did another doctor implant TVT-O in you?

          Confused about your comments.

          I have some family in Allentown, PA. Are you from Allentown?

        • Kelly November 23, 2015 at 7:27 pm - Reply

          Can you please send me info on Dr Raz? I am looking for someone to remove this mesh and I am desperate. Thanks. Please send to kelly@kimchimarketing.com thanks so much.

  6. stopmeshimplants November 16, 2015 at 11:16 am - Reply

    I think that site is wise. I often feel badly for newly injured people coming on this site with so many questions that we have already asked and had answered. I think it would be extremely beneficial for you to have a link on this site that says, “New to mesh issues. Click here” And then the link could be a frequently asked question site that starts from the beginning. Have they obtained their medical records? Do they know the manufacturer of their mesh implant product? Which type of mesh implant do they have? Have they had a diagnosis of mesh complications and so on…..

    Please continue to do the work you do. It is so helpful for all. Take care.

    • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 12:06 pm - Reply

      Thank you. I agree with your suggestion,,, it’s a good one. Thanks!

  7. K November 16, 2015 at 12:21 pm - Reply

    I knew Judge Goodwin would allow them to move the December trial. It’s going to be a long while!!

  8. Debbie Edwards November 16, 2015 at 12:22 pm - Reply

    Has anyone ever looked into the price of newspapers ad,or tv ads? I would be happy to add some money to the pot to get the truth out about us. Not some money hungry Lawyer trying to stuff his pockets. We all need to get it together and get OUR word out, not the Lawyers. I don’t know how to go about doing this, but I know someone out there has to have a idea.

    • Mamohio November 18, 2015 at 11:59 pm - Reply

      Ask stillstanding, I’m sure he or she will give some advice but that’s about it. I wish Stillstanding would use all the knowledge they think should be done and we could follow their lead. I woul jump on the band wagon. At leasr they’re still standing and most of us are very sick, in pain and laying in bed. But I sure would drag myself to help the cause. Btw stillstanding are you in Ohio? Maybe we could meet and go over the objectives you think needs done so it is the “proper ” way. I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired. I just want to bring awareness out in the States for other women. Generate some news and maybe someone will pick up our story.

      • Janis Urban November 19, 2015 at 7:26 pm - Reply

        Mamohio, a few of us from Ohio are in the early planning stages of a rally to the State Capitol in Columbus Ohio. E-mail me janishietala@yahoo.com or keep up with info at Mesh Awareness Movement on Face Book.

        • Mamohio November 20, 2015 at 5:49 pm - Reply

          Thanks Janis you and I have been in contact and we were supposed to talk on the phone a week of two ago. I believe you got ill and maybe in the hospital?; I pm you on fb with my home number so we can rally the troops. I will be unavailable from the 24 to the 30. Go back and look at your email. You and I are the ones wanting to rally at the capitol. Because most women cant make a D.C. trip. So Lisa Mason is looking FOR MAM LEADERS IN EACH STATE on her fb page Mesh Awareness Movement. If each state can rally some victims, family and friends we can make the awareness of MESH to all women who may become future victims. I like your ideas so we really need to talk. My number is in your last email to me.

      • Still Standing November 20, 2015 at 1:21 am - Reply

        I get your sarcasm but please do not marginalize my personal and very painful experience with mesh because I CHOOSE and refuse to sit. Do you think that means that I am less injured and have less pain because I choose to try to be the best I can be every single day? My medical records certainly speak for themselves and frankly my medical providers are amazed at what I have pushed myself physically and emotionally to do. Helen Langler, a Harvard psychologist once said “where the mind goes, the body will follow,” and mountains of research have proven that to be true. I decided that I wanted to build Trump Towers in my mind instead of slums. It truly is a choice. I make myself move and stretch throughout the day, I get dressed every day and look for opportunities to connect with others going through difficult times, I work on self care and gratitude. Some days I dont do so well physically and give myself room to do some grieving or just be angry, or just do nothing. But, think of what inspires you. Is it the soldier who goes AWOL on the battlefield, or the soldier who returns home without legs, yet competes in the paralympic games? Now think about what the women ( yes I’m a she )who come to this site for the first time need to hear. This is our battlefield. Do you want them to leave with hope or total despair? This is how you get people to get interested in our story. This is how you get a movement going. You first inspire yourself to work beyond your own pain, to challenge yourself to do everything that you can possibly do to get better, even if it is just one small step. We cant wait for someone else to magically make our pain disappear. Its your battle. You have to show up fully prepared for it every single day. You have absolutely nothing to lose by trying and you may find some strengths inside you that you never knew you had. People will be inspired. The world will listen to our story.

        • Mamohio November 20, 2015 at 6:18 pm - Reply

          How are they going to come to this we site if we don’t get awareness out by rallying. Put our website and fb pages on posters. Talk to people about this atrocity. I am not trying to downgrade anything you have been thru. We all have been going thru something and we have to start a public awareness campaign so that women of the future wont get injured like us. BLINDLY MAIMED. No one has done a story about this, J & J is still getting away with their bulls@#$ and they keep gettting away with it. We have to start putting faces on this terrible pain and torture we are going through each day. It is called “FREEDOM OF SPEECH”. It is time we stand up and be heard instead of hiding behind our keyboards. The longer we stay quiet the more likelihood the defense is going to appeal, push back case, overturn cases like Mrs. Bastiste after she won her case then dies 3 pro defense attorney’s denied her victory, now her family has to fight for her. I’m tired of waiting. The women in Ohio is going to make a stand before it is too late. Remember the squeaky wheel gets the oil we are just getting the shaft. So say what you want, Ohio victims are tired of waiting. I don’t want to die first before my suit is settled. We all need the suits to be settled, awareness to other women, let FDA know how they handled this to begin with and what we expect for the future! If not for us, then our daughter’s, granddaughter’s and women of this great country. But like the African Americans they don’t sit back and do nothing, they make their voices heard. We women must do the same. Anyone else tired of this crap and slapped in the face, ignored and losing everything they own including their right to be healthy again, go to the MAM fb page and let Lisa Mason know what state you’re in and get involved. Ohio is ready to fight!

          • Still Standing November 22, 2015 at 12:46 am

            Well, good luck. Several things you might consider. News people will not just show up for your demonstration. You will need to contact each news agency wherever you are rallying and give them a story lead at least a week or so before the event. It is hard to get them to come and it could happen that a breaking story would take precedence over your rally. thats just the way it is. A few months ago, I was doing a story about pain management and we had everything ready three times and the reported got diverted. They have much news to push out, especially newspapers since their staffs have been cut so much, they dont have the staff to cover every story. If you have a Representative or Senator who is backing your cause, they may generate some news, but dont count on it happening. Also, since so many people are in the digital age, you can have cards printed through Vista print and you can get a bar scanner printed on the card. Then you can scan the phone over it and it will automatically take you to the web site. You could hand those out.they dont cost very much and would be worth the investment. Also plan the rally when the senate is in session. It can be pretty bleak at the capitol is they are gone. Find the ohio state legislative calendar on their website and see if they are having any committee hearings the day you are going to be there on health or aging issues. Actually, what would be better is to go while they are in session and visit the legislators offices.,you can go into everyone of them to visit. If the representstive or Senator are not in, they will usually have an aide there. Give them the card and other printed information. tell them your issue and ask for their support. It is usually good to stay 15 minutes or less. This gives you the opportunity to visit with staff and possibly a legislator if they are in. They DO listen

            Ive done this many times for red cross, hospice, and home health agencies and it can be very effective especiaaly if you all tell the SAME coordinated story.

          • Jane Akre November 22, 2015 at 10:08 pm

            We’ve been asked to provide women for local news stories and so often, their lawyer says NO! How does the word get out if victims are unable to talk! Some women say, I will talk anyway and go ahead and do. I’ve not heard of any negative outcomes from that brave stance!

  9. janet November 16, 2015 at 4:44 pm - Reply

    So glad that Judge Goodwin is calling these conference


    I still gave not seen anything on Orybtrx by Boston scientific being heard are expected even talked about

    I did see MDL 2326

    Stating Boston scientific wants to go to trial on all those cases

    Will it ever get over for us so much stress from health and these people

  10. Deb November 16, 2015 at 7:58 pm - Reply

    Reading the posts are both a comfort to me because I don’t feel so alone in this nightmare, also scary as it seems like we all will just be pushed around some more. My life before the first mesh implant several years ago now was active, now I’ve been through 2 surgeries and having complications: UTI infections, repeated prolapse and now bursitis and infection in lower spine area – and I was told at the time of second surgery that the mesh was “securely attached to the end of my spine for stability” (probably where the bursitis comes in, will know in December when more testing is performed…meanwhile I can’t even walk through the grocery store without pain, can’t sit without pain, can’t sleep without pain. So dr has me on anti-inflammatory, muscle relaxers and pain medication..a never-ending cycle that has changed my life. If I plan to share a meal out with my daughters, grandchildren or friends I have to make sure it’s near a bathroom and that I get back home and lie down immediately. On top of it all I am my 83 year old mother’s caregiver, I can’t take adequate care of her now, letting her down when she needs me. My husband tries to be patient but I feel a liability to him now that I can’t hold a job but don’t qualify for disability; plus we no longer can enjoy the intimacy we always shared, he is a good man but I constantly worry that he will find what he doesn’t get from me somewhere else with somebody else. I hope and pray Judge Goodwin can provide some justice for the ordeal we all are going through…hope and pray!

    • Greg Vign November 20, 2015 at 10:06 pm - Reply

      I have never heard of a woman with the diagnosis of pudendal neuralgia not receive earned disability

      • anonymous November 22, 2015 at 7:45 am - Reply

        Dr. Vigna I’ve been told I will only be paid for the surgery is now but I’m permanently disabled will never be able to work again and I’ve had the indications that they will not pay me for that I cannot settle unless they pay me for being disabled for the rest of my life please elaborate

      • anonymous November 22, 2015 at 7:47 am - Reply

        Just to clarify Dr Vigna yes I do get permanent disability from my Social Security but I believe the manufacturers need to pay women especially if they are permanently disabled for that also

  11. Mamohio November 17, 2015 at 8:03 am - Reply

    As I have stated before we can NOT just sit around or lay around and wait for justice to be served. We all have the same or similar situations. No job, no money, no livelihood, lack of intimacy, not enough or any insurance to keep up with the chronic pain everyday, treatly unfairly by drs who just do not want any part of us Bc of lawsuits, not enough experienced drs for total removal, so on and so on…….. WE AS WOMEN HAVE TO BOND TOGETHER AND START BEING HEARD IN FRONT OF OUR CAPITOL BUILDINGS OR SHOW UP AT SOME OF THESE TRIALS. Everyone wants to sit behind their keyboards and bitch but no action? Do you think it is going to just magically happen. I have AMS and what they offered was pathetic. Johnson and Johnson will prob go the same route eventually. Believe me we wont get back what we’ve lost. We wont live a pain free wonderful life again. We have written to so many people AND NO ONE EVER RESPONDS? WHY? Because J & J is in everyones pockets. THEY ONLY WAY WE CAN CHANGE THIS COURSE THAT WILL LEAVE US PENNILESS AND WITH THE SAME PAINFUL COMPLICATIONS. IS TO BE SEEN AND HEARD. IT IS ELECTION TIME, ITS THE RIGHT TIME AND WE ARENT GETTING ANY YOUNGER OR HEALTHIER. TALK TO LISA MASON WHO YOUR STATE MAM REP IS AND CONTACT THEM SO WE CAN RALLY ON THE SAME DAY IN OUR OWN STATES AND THEN MAYBE ENOUGH TO MARCH IN DC. I have been trying to get Ohio women fired up to do one in our state. I have a few who pm me on fb or email me that you want to stand up and be recognized. OHIO IS READY BUT WE NEED WOMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE. I hate to say it but if we don’t push the momentum in our favor, we will continue to hear cases being appealed, trials being rescheduled, trials loss due to lack of proper attorney support or just knowledge. Do you think our attorneys are going to stand up for us? They are going to take whatever they can and start settlements like AMS did and they will get your money, the insurance companies will get your money, the state and federal governements will get some of your money (liens, bankruptcy etc;) WAKE UP LADIES AND GO TO THE MAM FACEBOOK AND CONACT LISA MASON TO GET STARTED IN YOUR STATES THEN MAYBE TO DC, MAYBE SOMEONE WILL SEE US AND WE WILL MAKE AMERICA AND REST OF OUR MESH SISTERS AROUND THE WORLD BE HEARD. MAYBE THEN CHANGE WILL COME. RIGHT NOW WE ARENT GETTING ANY CHANGE OR DOLLARS OR AWARENESS.

    • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 11:57 am - Reply

      You can set up a MAM Take Action page here if you wish…. thank you.

      • MAMOHIO November 17, 2015 at 12:08 pm - Reply

        Hi Jane,

        Lisa Mason has already set us up a facebook page under MAM, Mesh Awareness Movement. She is looking for state MAM leaders. I volunteered for Ohio. I am not sure what other states have responded to take on the MAM leadership role to start rallying state capitols. I am waiting to get women from Ohio or surrounding states who do not have a MAM leader yet to join us. So far I have only received a few. But if we bring our families, friends, and other mesh survivors we can make a difference. Its just getting women and men to commit to the Awareness Campaign to STOP THE MESH. Please if you want to get involved in your state, contact Lisa Mason on her FB page MAM and she will let you know if anyone is leading your state. I am taking a dual role with another fellow Ohioan and waiting for her to contact me. In the meantime women from Ohio and the TRI state areas, contact me at cleveland_browns43342@hotmail.com to get involved. Thanks and God bless!

        • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 1:05 pm - Reply

          I’d like to do a story under Take Action…… does she want her email out there?

          • Mamohio November 23, 2015 at 6:41 am

            Polly Montgomery has an awesome and is summarizes it for most of us women. Would that help? Ohio is just trying to hand out literature, posters where to go like her and FB MAM. Ive already shared the trifolds with some women and after reading and seeing our website and MAM she got a clear education. So stillstanding I think awareness to the public without saying a word is worth a million words. Have you already launched a rally in your state let us know how it went. Ladies who are afraid to speak, don’t. Just hand them phamplet. They can make their own decision with at leasr more than what we got. God bless!

      • Jamie December 3, 2015 at 11:31 am - Reply

        Hello Jane

        I personally do not have face book for reasons of my own about social media,this is a good idea about here for take action that’s my opinion as you can see I read here the news not on facebook which I understand is its own entity and I’m just one of those people who don’t.I would like to ask,as I’m confused because my most recent surgery was 9/2014 and before that as well,is the EIF filed for upcoming surgeries,because that is what it sounds like? I have representation just like she said the 40%thieves & I told them prior to my last revision ? My first one done I lost 12 weeks of work and went under another surgery 6more weeks.Right now I’m going to crash & burn here I have nothing & my significant other is not getting anything for 27yrs of sticking with me,mamohio also said you have to have gotten a first settlement? Haven’t gotten Crap Offered to me &

        haven’t heard nothing as I called my firm 4x in the last month asking questions,no one has gotten back,I also saw some story about Judge Williams saying AMS SPARC sling is what I have should be settled in state court not Federal & there were too many inter joined cases from Minnesota & texas that were from all over the country?< as I have a Texas Firm which sent me to a Special Master & will not address these Questions I have or keep me up to date. Have you heard anything on that I believe it was a March or May article ?

        🙁 I want to Take Action on my own case as all of us do take a handle on our situations and stop bitching behind a key board as well ! It starts becoming very discouraging & more & more upsetting & I hold on to being calm & collected because mean is what it is making me the pain that courses through my body is making me want to snap,I have all to do but keep off the streets because it will kill me ! I want this insane in the membrane crap over with it has done everything to destroy lives & make my generation of women just vanish into the horizon by taking our dignity away like spaying a Dog !

    • anonymous November 17, 2015 at 1:39 pm - Reply

      There are many of us that do not have the money to travel or the physical possibilities to travel so we have to vent somewhere thank God for Jane site no I don’t believe anything will ever change no matter what we do and you have to remember many of its been have been told to be quiet not to speak out or we can ruin everything any chances of getting any kind of decent settlement so you can go on here and say that we don’t do nothing but b**** but sometimes that’s all we can do we have to vent we have to bitch otherwise many of us are probably commit suicide we are bonded by the fact that we have mess inside of us but then there’s a lot of other differences in a so please don’t put this all into one category it is not Thursday to say that we are not willing to do anything but b**** some of us just can’t

      • Janet November 17, 2015 at 6:16 pm - Reply

        You hit that one out of the ball park

        2 yrs ago I tried to travel 1500 miles to Tennessee

        They paid for myself and my daughter

        It was horrible for me the pain in sitting traveling was so bad

        I will never er be able to do anything like that ever

        And the sad part my children are around the world

        E cept the one still at home..

        It’s sad once again thanks to Boston scientific for destroying our lifes

      • anonymous November 18, 2015 at 7:59 pm - Reply

        Very true. There are similarities but also significant differences that can’t be overlooked. The more I read others’ experiences and recommendations, the more I appreciate those trying to help (in any way) and recognize that no two people share the same story. Jane’s articles and the responses show just how much varies from complications, treatments and experiences with the medical community to finances, relationships, age, litigation experience and more.

        Some women with transvaginal mesh are, at least currently, happy with one of these products. There are those who experience one solvable problem while some face devastating complications, one after another. Removal is the best option for some yet they can’t have surgery for various reasons. Others are, understandably, afraid of more surgery. Some people are better after a revision or removal. Some are healthier and in less pain only following several surgeries, and others are no better or having more complications after multiple operations. Relief, at least to an extent, is common with medications and therapies, but some are made worse. There are also those facing chronic conditions which may not be curable.

        Erosions, infections, neurological disorders such as migraines, nausea and vomiting from pain or illness, psychological complications, significant nerve injuries, neuromuscular and muscle damage, fatigue and body aches from autoimmune disorders, fecal incontinence and other disturbing bowel problems, urinary retention requiring catheter use, and more are ongoing for some of the injured. There are those who experience most of these with no easy fixes. Disability is real.

        We must also not forget the financial and familial situations of those in this community. Some of the injured have young children or others in their homes who must be considered in everything. There are those struggling and trying so hard to keep their families together. Some are fighting to keep their homes and find some normalcy in each day. Traveling long distances isn’t an option for all, and it appears those who are able question what can be done. I understand both sides here, but most won’t rally or forge ahead with difficult travels unless they know their efforts can make a difference. What, when and where are important, and I thank MAMOHIO and others for their continued efforts, but I think many are looking for the main goal and an answer to “what can or will this accomplish?”

        Some of us want to do more for others and ourselves but can’t at this time. We’re doing what is possible, which includes providing information on MND and trying to get better so we have a chance at a better life and being more productive in the future. Some people help via gatherings and travels. Others do from laptops and phones. If we can, please, remember that we’re on the same side, and we all need to vent sometimes.

        • Jane Akre November 19, 2015 at 11:06 am - Reply

          Anonymous- this website was started to put a face on adverse events. Then lawyers told everyone to stop going public. So I’m asking if anyone will have their story told today? Again, we need to talk about who the real people are and their families who are hurting. Anyone? Thank you. (PS- Your lawyer must be on board. I stick to the facts of the case and do nothing to jeopardize your litigation).

      • Mamohio November 18, 2015 at 11:41 pm - Reply

        Just venting on here is not going to raise public awareness about this atrocity happening to us. It will also bring awareness to other women to ask questions, do their own research and make an educated decision. There obviously was other ways of treating these problems such as the burch procedure which they don’t do much training on this anymore since the polyprolene mesh has become the “gold ” std. Which is really gold in the pockets of the drs and Pharma co. The Mesh Awareness Movement fb page, Lisa Mason is looking for MAM state reps to just bring awareness and hopefully we can rally in DC. My lawyer said its freedom of speech. Really, we don’t have t youo say anything if our signs just leads ppeople here or the fb page. Maybe it will get J &J to start taking some heat and responsibility. So far them settling out of court keeps it from making the news. They don’t want their stockholders selling out on them. It doesn’t become public information or the news. Are you getting tired of not being heard, treated unfairly, broke, inadequate health care, loss of livelihood, intimacy, etc. We aren’t getting any better and could be years before we get anything if at all. AMS was a slap in the face. I just dont want to see the same from the other Pharma Co like J&J and it looks like they are getting away with alot of shit. All I see momentum pendulum is swinging their way

        each other. Do what you want? Do what makes you feel better? But do you feel like anyone gives a shit about us? Only we care about each other. If.you have ideas as Ive said before, bring them to the table. But don’t be negative or put so much tiplan scrutinies about what my plans.

        • Still Standing November 22, 2015 at 2:43 pm - Reply

          The Burch procedure is not for for pelvic organ prolapse. It is only for stress urinary incontinence, so the Burch will not address POP. Most studies show that the long-term success of the Burch procedure after 5 years is considerably lower than surgeries using mesh. The Burch also requires a longer post-op recovery. It is still being taught in med schools, but it is certainly not the only option vs mesh. You have to take into consideration that there were those like me who had prolapse and did not need treatment for SUI. Some with SUI need additional procedures for prolapse (cyctocele, rectocele, perineocele). Also, think about the women who have the Burch and then having to have it again several years down the road. Perhaps these women would want to sue the physicians because the procedure failed. It is impossible for everyone to be happy with a single procedure. Additionally, there are studies that indicate that one failed Burch procedure will prohibit having it again. So, here we are, stuck with the decision to have corrective surgery for SUI or wear depends (although there ARE non surgical approaches to SUI. They do require, however, considerable effort on the patients part) . And then some need surgery for prolapses. This is more a quality of life issue. We dont like that bulge and want it fixed although POP is not medically harmful. Mine hit a stage three before I agreed to surgery. After having the mesh removed, my entire pelvic floor collapsed and was outside my vagina more than 8 inches. Believe me, I welcomed surgery with another mesh because I had no healthy vaginal tissue to use non-mesh options. Then there are those who need both SIU and POP surgery. This is a very complicated issue and it is one reason that litigation has been so slow. You cant just point to all women who have SUI mesh and come up with standardized lists of complications. Ditto for POP women. So, would you prohibit me making the choice to have mesh for my extreme prolapse by recommending that all mesh be banned? Would you tell an otherwise healthy 40 year old man that he will,probably die because his large hernia cant be fixed because the surgeons best tool…I said best, not perfect…has been banned. These are the issues you need to consider when you call for a total ban on surgical mesh. At least get all the facts straight and be prepared to argue your case for wanting it banned with compelling scientific facts.

      • Mamohio November 20, 2015 at 6:35 pm - Reply

        If you live in Ohio. We will make sure you get there, that’s why we are starting in each state. We will get wheelchairs, walkers come pick you up. Provide the poster boards. Have flyers to hand out. Your family and friends are welcome to come and support you. Whatever you need. Contact Janis or myself, her and I both live in Ohio and are in the infant stages. Any Ohio or any other state who wants to join us are welcome. We will help with the logistics, we just need people to stand up or seated rally for awareness. Go to the MAM fb and pm Lisa Mason on who to contact. My email is on this article and so is Janis. Email either one of us so that a plan with objectives, logictics of your travel and your medical needs, how many friends and family can come. Believe us we are tired of this s#$%! To do nothing, results are nothing. JOIN US!

    • Still Standing November 17, 2015 at 7:17 pm - Reply

      I have seen other calls to battle on this site come and go. Here is my personal opinion about why they have not gotten traction. Having read your post, i would like to explain why I will wait before getting involved again this time. . I hesitate to join a movement when the goals and objectives are not adequately articulated. I dont understand the message at this point. I wonder what the purpose is for doing rallies at state capitols since the states have no influence on the FDA and since most of the lawsuits filed are in federal courts. Is the goal getting the plaintiffs the settlement dollars or is it to ban medical mesh entirely. If you want to ban all mesh, what is there to use in its place when no other materials are viable? I think we need to anticipate this question and have knowledge about this debate. I wonder how those who are alive today because of mesh repair of large hernias think. I have many friends who have had hernia mesh, bladder slings and other pelvic repairs with mesh and they are happy with the outcome. None have the wall to wall transvaginal POP mesh that I had, but they do have mesh surgical repair. So, not every person with mesh repair has had adverse effects.

      It appears that most women on this site want a respectable settlement now and not years from now. This is a great cause, but have you done research on how to best influence this process? What efforts work and how much money will be needed to effect change. Raising public awareness of a problem costs money and more than that, it requires money that is targeted to the right audience.

      I believe that a campaign to raise public awareness is a great idea. I guess I need to see how those calling for people to get involved can solidify a central message and explain how the movement will roll it out. It isnt the time for point and shoot marketing. There needs to be a thoughtful plan if the movement is going to succeed.

      • Still Standing November 17, 2015 at 7:21 pm - Reply

        Here is a really good comprehensive article about surgcal mesh if anyone is interested. I did not realize that mesh for hernia repair was used in the early 1900s. Fascinating explanation of the history.


        • Jane Akre November 18, 2015 at 12:03 pm - Reply

          Thank you!!

      • Mamohio November 20, 2015 at 6:47 pm - Reply

        Our plan and objectives will not be shared on this website so some of the defendants lawyers will know what’s coming. If you are not from Ohio then don’t worry about ir. We are not laying our cards out on the table for everyone to know. It will be discussed in meetings to women who want to join us. Not for disguised victims to read and plan a counterattack, we aren’t that stupid. You just sit back and take care of yourself, we will speak from our hearts. Our no words at all will be necessary. If women and men come to the Medical Mesh News Desk it will be awareness and they can read our horror stories and want to help us or go to our fb page. That would be the greatest gift to just be heard and warn future generations. Maybe the settlements will start taking precedence and get a big push to settle fairly for what they have done to us and our lives. All we ask for is support.

        • Jane Akre November 21, 2015 at 5:32 pm - Reply

          If you want some space on page one…. let me know.

  12. Susan Geiner November 17, 2015 at 10:32 am - Reply

    Does this meeting include cases filed in the New Jersey MDL courts?

    • Jane Akre November 17, 2015 at 11:55 am - Reply

      These are the cases involved in WV MD however the manufacturers are the same and a decision by J&J could very well affect the New Jersey cases..

  13. Janis Urban November 17, 2015 at 11:39 pm - Reply

    Here is a Email Address for Congressman Mike Fitzpatrick of PA. He is a voice and a representative that is standing on the side of women’s health issues. At this time Rep. Fitzpatrick is helping the women of Essure and the Morcelators and in front of Chairman Tim Murphy before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce to review the regulations on medical devices. There is no mention of Pelvic Mesh Devices. Why? Here is the Email Address: justin.rusk@mail.house.gov Phone Number 202 225-4276. Tell Congressman Fitzpatrick about Pelvic Mesh and Thank him for doing his job. I think it’s time…the window of opportunity won’t be open for long. Medical Device Safety should be redressed by Congress. Commerce over the Safety of People?

  14. Cheryl November 18, 2015 at 11:30 am - Reply

    I have a lawyer. I have just underwent my final surgery with Dr. Raz out of UCLA. He is a Godsend and if you can get to him GO!!!!!!!!

    Now my question is about these lawyers. I was offered a settlement which I declined. However they keep sending me blank insurance information requests forms. On them they have put posted noes reading “leave blank”. Specifically where what information is requested. Anyone else have this. The latest one they sent to me five days after my surgery???!!!!!!

    I understand they are not happy, but really?!??

    • Jane Akre November 18, 2015 at 11:58 am - Reply

      No they are not happy…. they don’t get paid if you don’t sign. The pressure is on, but if you are getting less than $40,000 and you can afford it, why would you sign? You WILL give away your rights to forever take this issue to court….this is not an easy thing to decide. Not signing, you may never see a dime. And the firms are out hundreds of thousand of dollars in working up these cases, they deserve to be paid…. so do you! Time to go back to the manufacturer and demand more!!??

      • Hal Lewis November 19, 2015 at 10:50 am - Reply


        With all due respect, the civil justice system in our country is just not set up to adequately protect and compensate folks who are injured by defective products but not the point where there injuries are catastrophic. Presumably, the women being offered $40,000 or less would fall into this category. This does NOT mean that they are not injured, is does not mean that they are NOT in pain, it does NOT mean that they weren’t screwed over by the mesh manufacturers, and it does not mean that they don’t DESERVE much more money in a perfect world where fair is fair.


        Let’s say hypothetically that these women have claims that COULD result in a jury verdict of $500,000. That’s a much larger number and a number that would probably seem closer to fair for some of the women who fall into Tier 1 and Tier 2.

        First of all, any lawyer who plans to go all the way to court and try a case against a mesh manufacturer knows that it will cost $100,000 to $150,000. And that cannot be avoided because the manufacturers and their lawyers will purposely create tons of paperwork and travel and expert fees and deposition costs and so on and so forth. They are NOT going to do anything to make it easier for plaintiffs. That’s obvious by now.

        So, a lawyer has to decide whether or not he/she wants to spend $125,000 of his/her own money… to MAYBE earn a fee of $200,000… when there is a 30% chance (based on current trial results) that the jury will award nothing… and a 100% chance than any victory will be appealed… which leads to another several years of costs and time?

        Oh yeah… you have to remember that the lawyer will know that taking the case to trial will occupy 100% of his/her time for two years… which means foregoing work an all OTHER cases and sources of income. So the question becomes: What really good and capable lawyer is going to shut down his/her profitable practice to spend two years and $125,000 to maybe get $200,000 in the end?

        Answer: NONE

        So please understand that refusing to take certain cases to trial does not mean that a lawyer is a “bad” lawyer. It actually means the opposite. A bad lawyer would be so desperate for work that he/she would take on a case because they have no other source of income that is more profitable. A good lawyer realizes the pros and cons of every situation and advises his client accordingly — whether the client likes the answer or not.

        • Jane Akre November 19, 2015 at 11:01 am - Reply

          Understand. These are costly cases and law firms are out hundreds of thousands of dollars. Kudos to the firms that step up and do so. But really, $40k is adding insult to injury, don’t you think?

          • Hal Lewis November 19, 2015 at 1:19 pm

            To me, NO, not when the only real alternative is to turn down $40,000 and end up with nothing.

            But as long as someone knows that they are turning it down ON PRINCIPLE and not because they truly stand a chance to make a lot more money… then OK.

            But as an attorney, there are many times where for whatever reason, I know that my clients will not get a recovery that is truly representative of their injuries. Limited insurance, multiple claimants, tough liability, bankruptcy, etc.

            In these situations, I have long talks with them about “disassociating” the money they recovered with the injury that they suffered. In other words, try to view them as two completely independent events.

            For instance… is there ANY mesh victim who would say, “No, I do NOT want to open a letter today from the IRS that says they made a mistake on my back taxes so here is a $40,000 check.” Of course not. EVERYONE could use an extra $40,000.

            Likewise, there are thousands of people every day who suffer an injury or get diagnosed with a horrible illness for which they know that no compensation will ever arise. Unfortunately, some of the mesh victims are going to need to look at their situations this way.

            Is it fair? No. But I think everyone needs to know that turning down $40,000 may just end up in them being able to proudly say later: “I got nothing in the end, but at least I still have my pride.”

          • Janet November 20, 2015 at 7:50 am

            Does anyone knows what the details are with the meetings

            Also I receive no information regarding my case with attorneys

            Are they just playing stupid with us..

            I have a Boston scientific will be going into my 3 surgery

            But I have had about 20/ 30 procedure ..

            I why want these manufacturers do what’s right

          • Hal Lewis November 19, 2015 at 1:25 pm

            The only other possibility, Jane, would be for EVERY mesh victim to get a lot more than $40,000…. let’s say $150,000… but it’s the SAME AMOUNT for everyone.

            Regardless of whether you had a week of pain and had it removed… or a lifetime of disability and 6 surgeries… you get $150,000.

            This would end up being a BETTER result for the MAJORITY… since there are more claims in Tier 1 and 2 than there are in the higher tiers… but it would be a HORRIBLE result for the women who have been very seriously injured and have $500,000 in medical bills.

            So we can’t have it both ways. We want to see the people who have suffered the most get the most compensation. That’s fair.

            But we can’t see everyone get ADEQUATE compensation because to do so in 100,000 claims would require $200 Billion. That amount would bankrupt every company that has ever existed and probably every COUNTRY in the world except 8.

          • Jane Akre November 19, 2015 at 3:34 pm

            It certainly would get the attention of shareholders who right now are taking the dollars over any consideration of how they made that money. Certainly a resolution more like Merck concerning Vioxx $4.3 billion, would be more fair and J&J for example could handle it. Just my thoughts.

          • anonymous November 19, 2015 at 3:48 pm

            But it’s okay to bankrupt families to have families lose homes sorry if I don’t care about the companies anymore but then take out loans but themselves. Let them do whatever they have to do the women that have been hurt and will never be able to work again and will live in pain and misery the rest of their lives deserves every last penny these companies can give them

          • Advocate November 19, 2015 at 2:04 pm


            I don’t know of a single plaintiff in any of the settlement offers to date, who were able to document their injury history or had any kind of “qualifying revision”, who have been approached with a 40k offer. I do know those with product in place only, those with little to no documented injury in medical records or those with the signature of dyspareunia as the primary injury, have been made such an offer. Under some of the other offers, I could see a “net” recovery in cash to the injured of 40k, after all liens and attorney fees were resolved.

            Now do I think that figure is a fair settlement? No I don’t. I do think Hal wrote a very fair post about expectations. I have tried, as you are aware, to explain the realities here, even when they are extremely unpopular. The court system isn’t stacked against mesh victims, its sorely overwhelmed with this tort. The system wasn’t designed for this kind of catastrophic load. Attorneys, judges and legislatures couldn’t foresee something like this happening. Yet we are here. The frustrations of this litigation run high for both the injured and their attorney firm. Then we have people who post thoughts and opinions that some readers, can’t distinguish between fiction and reality. Perhaps that’s based on their pain on any given day, but for some it’s just a negativity that they can’t help but vent. They demand that others walk in their shoes for a day, do we dare say walk in the shoes of those trying to help?

            I applaud Still Standing and her posts. They are factual, helpful and her personal experiences are invaluable. I’m sure she dislikes everything the litigation has drug her through so far. Still Standing is a very appropriate name. Here’s what frustrates those attempting to help… You make a great point Jane, on the amount of money that comes out of the attorneys pocket up front. This isn’t something most clients are probably even aware of and most attorneys wouldn’t even discuss with the client. So how does the attorney feel when they hear they are part of the problem, they’re overpaid money hungry leaches, they only care about themselves and never their client? Most attorneys handling these cases are not large firms, as the common person my expect. They may have 2 or 3 full time paralegals working on mesh cases alone and while that seems like a lot, let’s go through the math.

            If every firm signed up 500 cases, there would be 180 firms handling clients across the country. If only 10% of those clients signed up, were to call each week, that would be 50 calls or 10 a day. Surely 10 calls a day on status, isn’t a lot. Except the average time given by the firm to those calls, is 30 mins. Some a little shorter, but many are longer. Some exceed an hour. Everyday. Women telling their story to the firm because nobody else is listening. Same women, same story, same length of time, every time. But what we have is one person handling 10 calls at 30 minutes equaling 5 hours of telephone conversations. That’s one employee accomplishing nothing else but listening. They didn’t work on any other files or business that would produce immediate revenue. They were oftentimes berated in the call, by a victim who is frustrated by pain and the lack of information or even an unrealistic view of the potential outcome. Can we all agree, this isn’t a job most would sign up for? The firm’s paralegals do though.

            Then, there are the posters who accuse the government of plotting against them. Judges are being paid off left and right . It’s a conspiracy in the court system. A post here today makes the accusation the meetings are a money making scam. Somehow, Judge Goodwin is responsible for the Texas Supreme Court decision? I’m sure this poster is frustrated but she also doesn’t have any inkling, on how the system works and how hard her team is working. But do the posters realize the harm done when making unfounded and outlandish accusations about attorneys, judges and doctors? Some will take those “opinions” and run with them as gospel. It hurts so many others. I remember a few days ago, a poster implied one of the most world renowned doctors, doing mesh removal, was a plastic surgeon. You thankfully corrected them! When attorneys and doctors are treated in such low regard (yes they do read the blogs) why on earth would they want to get involved? The only people who lose in that instance, is the mesh injured!

            I get it, nobody likes the cold water, slap in the face, that reality sometimes brings. The victims here have certainly suffered enough and it doesn’t appear it will end anytime soon for many. Yet Still Standing makes a very valid point. To what end are the protests meant to achieve? What is the objective? Will making the news to demand removal of these products from the market be sufficient for the protesters? More money, is unrealistic on the scale that most hope for. For the most part, there won’t be considerations added to these settlement conversations that increase money but might move them within the tiers. Life plan’s won’t matter for cases being included in the settlement conversations. They might be considered for those that actually make trial. The reason they don’t matter in the settlement conversations is simple. Those conversations are not breaking out specific injury and long term injury resolution. Defense is not entertaining additional injury, unless science supports said injury today. No science, no consideration.

            Jane, thanks for providing this forum so important information can get out to these needing victims. Thanks for allowing some of us, like Hal and others, to help and attempt to put reason on the table, even when unpopular. Mostly, thanks to the brave women like Still Standing, who suffer, yet come here often in an attempt to educate and lift up others who are suffering.

          • Jane Akre November 19, 2015 at 3:31 pm

            Advocate- The darkest chapter in women’s health is certainly what this is! I have always thought that law firms should release news released, in their own words, through Mesh News Desk.l They will get thousands of readers, I will charge them, less than PR Newswire AND everyone is kept up to date somewhat. What’s wrong with that? No takers though.

      • Barb November 20, 2015 at 9:57 pm - Reply

        If we mesh injured woman had a deadline of having more surgeries after the cut off date why are these attorney’s still taking new cases?? The AMS settlement talks were roughly taking care of 20,000 plus however when they came to a figure to be paid 1.6 Billion with already a billion paid to clients yes we have other’s coming on board. Not being greedy but wouldn’t you think that if you were mesh injured you would have filed along time ago?? I know in category one with my law firm with just an implant payout is $9,000, It appears to me that they are handling the easier cases first. I also was told from my attorney firm that have more then one implant doesn’t matter, I find this unjustice those of us who have more then one puts us in a differen category s I feel it increases our chances to be diagnosed with more injuries.

        • Jane Akre November 21, 2015 at 5:28 pm - Reply

          you should be in a different category with more than one implant,,, at least in the MDL of multiple manufacturers. There are more women coming forward because mesh is still being used and some injuries are just emerging…. even Dr. Raz said he’s seen injuries or complications ten years after an implant. And he should know!

  15. Maria Benedetto November 18, 2015 at 5:04 pm - Reply

    I have an appointment next Wednesday with yet a new Urologist,( this will make 3 ), I can only pray that she can tell me why and how to fix the Bladder issues I am still enduring since I was implanted with the Mesh Sling in 2007, and 5 surgeries thereafter. If she can’t, I don’t know how I would get to Dr Raz, whom I would want to be the last Urologist I ever have to see… PRAYERS NEEDED…

    • Jane Akre November 19, 2015 at 11:09 am - Reply

      Maria- Please do not go through the round robin of delay and deny. I have no idea if this urologist is competent, but not all docs are acknowledging mesh causes injuries! Maybe they can’t read. If you’d like a list of some docs in your area who others report positive things about, I’d be glad to provide it. I need to know where you are. Remember, no mesh procedure is 100% and no doctor walks on water, but some are better than others.

  16. Still Standing November 18, 2015 at 6:56 pm - Reply

    Cheryl. I am assuming you still have the law firm representing you. When they send blank release of information forms it is probably because your information showed up on the insurance tracking organization they contract with. . They need releases for the most current surgery for your case records. If they are not representing you anymore, then they dont need that information but if your case is still open, they need to keep your records current with your most recent surgery. If you havent updated your releases for awhile, then it may just be that your permission for release of information has expired. You might check back in your own records to see when the general permission was dated.

  17. Linda November 19, 2015 at 7:57 am - Reply

    Here we go again! The judge meets with the manufactures and trials get pushed back months and months. Verdicts get over turned. Really what progress are we making. Are these meetings scheduled just to make it seem like action is being taken. The last meeting the judge held… he said no more delays, extensions or excuses. MMMMMM, now a hearing is postponed, a huge verdict awarded by the jury is over turned and the product is STILL ON THE MARKET. What a money making scam at the expense of women.

  18. Bejah Blue November 19, 2015 at 5:27 pm - Reply

    Not sure where to post this so please forgive context issue(s)….I have been having a problem with bowel movements (Sorry to be indelicate) or should I say the lack thereof! Talked with a friend pharmacist at the local Von’s/Safeway (He once filled my perscriptions before insurance company changes and he is a good guy and a perfect example of the truth that all the good ones are married!). Anyway I just do not seem to be able to release much at all anymore (Am I becomming anal retentive????). He suggested I will always need to take medication for this so long as I take narcotic pain med. regardless of dose (Mine is very low). He gave me ClearLax (Like Miralax) but it is a Safeway brand so cheaper for one thing. I have never taken Miralax. I took a half cap yesterday just to test and nothing happened. I will take full cap tonight and hope for the best. To continue with the indelicate subject I seem to release only about 5-6 little marble sized balls a day and sometimes every 2-3 days only and this worries me. I had a colonoscopy a year or so ago and all way well except that the highly regarded GI doctor asserted that my pelvic pain was caused by the mesh and he confirmed a protrusion against the wall of the colon by the mesh (Is this to be expected?). Anyone who takes this ClearLax or MiraLax please post anything that may help others in our community. Thanks. I might add that I eat lots of vegetables and fruit these days and even that does not seem to help much. If I eat a big ribeye steak, however, the next day there is action but who can afford ribeyes every day! I can only afford them when they are marked down, something I affectionately call “Used meat”.

    Here is the pain management center my pharmacist at Desert Regional Hospital recently referred me to. It looks like a wonderful facility. I pray they will take me on as a patient. In two weeks I will run out of pain medication and I am terrified. If anyone is in Palm Springs area you may wish to consider this center. Also if anyone is familiar with any of their physicians please share your impressions, experiences. Thanks guys!

    Rancho Mirage Clinic

    Schedule-Appointment Phone: 760-321-1315

    Fax: 760-321-1094


    36101 Bob Hope Dr., Suite B-2

    Rancho Mirage, CA 92270

    Serving patients in the Coachella Valley, the Rancho Mirage clinic is conveniently located in the Pavilions shopping center on Bob Hope Drive, just north of Highway 111.

    Our elite team of Pain Management doctors, Dr. Tobias Moller-Bertram, Dr. Andrew Germanovich, Dr. Tyson Riesenberg, Dr. Leng Ky, Dr. Rick Ramos and Dr. John R. Keltner are the treating pain physicians at this office. You will also find a team of highly experienced chiropractors here as well!

    Wishing all a day rich with hope and sunlight,


    PS I have not been reading posts for several days as I have been sorting out budgetary matters and insurance choices for next year but hope to catch up soon. GOD Bless.

    • Jan November 19, 2015 at 8:37 pm - Reply


      Try drinking one cup warm prune juice every morning before eating anything. Also bran cereal along with your veggies and fruits. After having mesh removed, I’m dealing with this new issue, rectacele. I’ve tried Miralax and I get extremely bloated for days before it works. Hope the prune juice helps!

      • Still Standing November 20, 2015 at 2:09 am - Reply

        Your pain management physician should be on top of this. Shame on him or her. Constipation is a mesh woman.s biggest enemy. You have to stay on top of this every day. Miralax does work. However, it is not a stimulant laxative so will not work overnight. It pulls water into your digestive system. Take it daily and add a scoop of benefiber to it. Sometimes I do an extra capful of miralax in the evening. Do abdominal massage several times a day. Lie on your back, massage your abdomen starting on the right going counterclockwise in small circles. Take magnesium ( though go slowly because it can cause bloating at first. I like Natural Calm. ) If you go two days without a bowel movement, do aggressive intervention the third day. My doctor recommends two tablespoons of Milk of Magnesia every two hours until you go. Use dulcolax, ,colace, whatever it takes to get going. You can make a constipation paste with 1lb prunes, 1lb raisins, 1lb figs, 4oz senna tea ( called Smooth Move), 1 cup brown sugar, 1 cup lemon juice. Steep tea in 2 1/2 cup boiling water for ten minutes or so. Strain and put 2 cups in large pot, add fruit and boil for five minutes. Then add sugar and lemon juice and cool. Put in blender or mixer to make a paste. Use 1 or 2 TBS a day. Spread on toast or just eat from a spoon. Keep in freezer. It wont freeze solid and will last forever. Work on tight muscles. Constipation is a classic symptom of hypertonic pelvic muscles. Ditch dairy products. Milk products cause constipation. Use almond milk or coconut milk instead. Lastly, increase movement. Exercise as you can . Its important. Use dynamite if all else fails!

        • Jane Akre November 20, 2015 at 4:53 pm - Reply

          Thank you Still Standing….. good advice for everyone because we know constipation can actually worsen a prolapse!!

        • addison November 20, 2015 at 7:40 pm - Reply

          Dynamite! I like that, SS. 🙂 How true though; constipation is hard on the body and is an “enemy” of those with prolapse or prolapse repairs. Chronic constipation and straining can lead to a host of other problems, some very serious. Diverticula can form, and diverticulosis can turn into diverticulitis. Internal and external hemorrhoids may develop. Nerve damage can result and lead to fecal incontinence. Many believe patients with chronic constipation are also at an increased risk of developing cancer. How scary and unfortunate.

          It was brought to my attention by a therapist and Gastroenterologist at Mayo Clinic that constipation is not only a nuisance but a serious condition. Magnesium-rich foods or supplements, abdominal massage and several other interventions were suggested. I was also asked to drink a warm, healthy beverage every morning and use glycerin suppositories (daily) vs. laxatives. Removal surgery was needed in helping end severe, disabling constipation, but I do highly recommend Mayo’s biofeedback program if this type of therapy has been suggested. The therapists are very knowledgeable, and it is considered the best in the country. Somewhere along the way, my anal sphincter has become damaged or abnormal, but abdominal massage, glycerin suppositories and warm beverages help with opioid-induced constipation.

          • Jane Akre November 21, 2015 at 5:31 pm

            I’m wondering if a pro biotic is also helpful? for constipation specifically. I was just advised FlorAstor is a good one.

          • addison December 1, 2015 at 5:53 am

            Good morning, Jane. Did you have a nice Thanksgiving? Are there any updates on the business ventures (legal chat, sponsors, etc.)? Hoping and praying you receive more good news and recognition for your contributions. I’m sorry for not seeing your question sooner… not doing so well and finding myself very behind on things sometimes. Please let us know if you would like me to send or post (anywhere you would like) more information on chronic constipation interventions and/or what we’ve learned about probiotics from research and my local and Mayo physicians. Have a great day!

        • Barb November 20, 2015 at 9:27 pm - Reply

          Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news ‘m agreeing with Hal. After finding 2 Law Firms that had a meeting with AMS I have yet to find any of my attorneys agreement! They will try to associate where the source of pain could also be related!! My attorneys are Fibich-Hampton, Leebron, Briggs, Josephson in Texas Florida firm is Aylstock, Witkin,Kreis & Overholtz! Not much on their website about how settlements are going but they told me my records were being reviewed. The agreement from what I was told covers no infections, IC/PN. So I’m going to email one of these attorneys who has been involved with the settlement talks since day one. I’m category #3, that doesn’t include the surgery in July 2015 will have to appeal for monies for the most sever surgery. I want to know how these categories were decided and what injuries they associate within each tier under category’s! When it all come to it between the 40% by attorneys, the 20=25% hold back for medicaid we will really be lucky to walk away with 40%!!! Do we know if it’s only government insurance that is being paid back or other insurance company’s?? I’m being watched closely for organ prolapse it has gone from mild in June to #2. I also was referred to another Urologist to see if I would be a good candidate for collagen injections however after just getting my bill of $14 000 plus I don’t know what I will have to pay. I’m also wanting to let this attorney know medicare/medicaid is/has done major cutbacks so much will not be covered!

    • addison November 20, 2015 at 5:52 pm - Reply

      Good afternoon, Bejah Blue. It sounds as though you may have found what you’ve been searching and praying for the past several weeks. Hallelujah! There truly are many honest and compassionate men and women in the medical community (thank you for never criticizing me for saying so), and because of your willingness to push through the negative experiences and seek what you deserve, you are on a path of answers and healing.

      Are you still searching for a Urogynecologist? In knowing some of your complications, I think a team of physicians is appropriate and likely necessary. In my opinion, this should include a Urogynecologist and a Physiatrist. Establishing a relationship with a PCP, which you may have done, is also important. I think you have a Urologist due to your malformed kidney; he or she along with an infectious disease doctor can help in the diagnosis and management of infections if this is a concern. For body aches, vitamin deficiencies and chronic fatigue, I recommend seeing a Rheumatologist. A combination of experts (including a Gastroenterologist) can best address chronic constipation, especially if pelvic floor dysfunction is suspected. As you know, physical therapy and counseling are also important for many with implant complications.

      I’m sorry to hear of your bowel struggles… not easy to experience or discuss. Have you had testing for pelvic floor dysfunction, such as balloon expulsion or anorectal manometry? It is true that opioid therapy often causes chronic constipation (Opioid-Induced Constipation or OIC), and this is likely one reason for your current condition/battle. Decreased or lacking physical activity, poor nutrition or dietary habits, disease, colon or rectal blockage due to anal fissure, obstruction, rectocele or cancer, nerve conditions, hormone imbalances, and pelvic floor dysfunction are other causes.

      A combination of the above is not uncommon, and if this is your experience, I don’t think ClearLax or MiraLax alone will provide enough relief or consistent results. I also don’t know how you feel about relying on daily laxatives for the duration of your opioid treatment. Some studies show them to be safe for long-term use, and ultimately, you and your doctors will decide the best course of action and know if further intervention is needed. I’d like to add that pelvic floor dysfunction and/or something with your implant could be contributing factors. During a removal surgery, it was found that one of the implants in my body had become too tight. A portion had also rolled up with another pulling on my rectum. For about two years, I couldn’t “go” more than two to four times a month, and the pain was severe prior to, during and after. Testing, surgery and scans helped reveal these complications as well as pelvic floor dysfunction, erosion and other problems.

      For more on pelvic floor dysfunction, there is a lot of good information online. If anyone has questions about PFD or anything mentioned here, it might take me several days to see and reply, but I’ll help in any way possible. Oh, I almost forgot: “Pelvic floor dysfunction includes a group of disorders causing abnormalities of bowel storage and bowel emptying, as well as pelvic pain… Pelvic floor dysfunction can be caused by a number of specific conditions. These include: rectocele, paradoxical puborectalis contraction, pelvic pain syndromes, levator syndrome, coccygodynia, proctalgia fugax, pudendal neuralgia.” (Brian R. Kann, MD)

      Bejah, do you mind if I ask what testing you’ve had and if you must manually evacuate your bowels some or most of the time? I see that you had a colonoscopy last year; another might be helpful along with other tests. Do you have diverticulosis? Is IBS with constipation a concern or has it ever been diagnosed? Treatments vary depending on the cause(s) of constipation. Also, which of the following have you tried in combination with the dietary changes described in your post: probiotics, biofeedback, glycerin suppositories, abdominal massage, magnesium-rich food or supplements?

  19. karen November 20, 2015 at 12:54 am - Reply

    If Texas cap is $250.000.00 to sue the doctor and $250.000.00 to sue the hospital .Then unless we have hired attorneys for the fun of it we’re not doing these settlement . I was told we will not waste time with small amounts we going after the corporations they have billions . I’m sorry but are the attorneys afraid of the corporations.

    Because my case should have been over . Sitting here waiting years for a bunch of old judges that get paid under the table . At lunch and special dinners . While im fighting to put food on my table. Saving my marriage , my home , my family , my life . Wanting to die because in the middle of my entire body my lady business is painful , my left leg gives out . Knowing if I move around normally like I did years ago I will feel the wrath of hell . GOD IS THE LOVE OF MY LIFE I KNOW THIS .

    This is sad these corporations hate women . If it wasn’t for women they wouldn’t be here .

    This is unbelievable for American judges that sleep, eat, and breathe the law and justice can’t clear 150 thousands cases in a short period of time . We can give every excuse known to man but the real question is .

    WHY ????????

    • Jane Akre November 20, 2015 at 4:58 pm - Reply

      Our system does not allow a judge to simply decide a case and move along to the next one… it is not an assembly line. Each case has its time before a jury and they decide…(unless a judge overrules which they can do). I’m not sure what you want a judge to do? Even an evil doer deserves his day in court……

      • karen November 21, 2015 at 12:07 am - Reply

        Its pretty clear that if it was an assembly line , we would have these issues all sewn up . This system is a circus act . We’ve seen how judges overturn a verdict on these cases . But I’ll put it where the goats can get it.

        Listen judges first . The moving around is as if the victims of the mesh has no rights as a citizen in this country. The corporations are taking women for granted and only a handful of judges has moved on handling these mesh issues with respect for women. When its time for the insurance industry to call on their refund from the corporations , the settlement will be 90 billion or more and none of them will wait . Lets see how long blue cross and medicaid will wait for that payment . So without anymore prolonged periods treat human women citizens as if we are a share holder and we can move on . Alex Gorsky got his 25 million dollars bonus check and he is still a low life . This is a joke . The housing market crashed in 2007 the banker bailout was in 2008 . Get the picture . They were all shareholders . I’m just cattle. I’m sorry I can’t see clearly from this smoke screen of bullying human women citizens. There’s no excuse for this physical abuse . I was butchered and slaughtered as if it was round up time . So the system is our problem . Guess judges don’t have a chance . Got it . Thank you

    • Barb November 20, 2015 at 9:41 pm - Reply

      Karen i’m confused with your statement are you trying to sue your doctor and hospital along with the manufacturer???

  20. toni November 20, 2015 at 10:44 am - Reply

    So is there any news of the outcome with judge? I have had 3 surgerys and now wet myself daily so probably need another . llive in pain trying to keep my job House get my sons raised has been to much. Not sure if i can hang on. 50 yrs old and have hhad this crap 10 yrs . My 73 yr old Mom in better shape than me.

  21. Blueblood2076 November 21, 2015 at 5:58 am - Reply

    Two things… First I am told I am in the most severe tier of injury… 8 surgeries in 10 months.. 2 of those out of state.. Still having lots of the same issues and lots of inner thigh-groin pain and in to back of my knees. So on and so on.137 dr. Appts. , hospital admits for abbesses , not being able to void for 4 days, wore a Catholic for 4 months and on and on…

    I received an injury verification packet from AMS in June I added my medical records and it’s been 6 months and I’ve heard nothing.. I was told by the settlement center that I shoul have the initial settlement packet by the end of December…. So who knows I cross my fingers for some half ass closure and am waiting to have some funds to go to the mayo clinic in Minnesota.

    Anyone hear any news with AMS??? Praying for a miracle and healing for all of us..

    • Barb November 24, 2015 at 10:04 pm - Reply

      I too have AMS!! I was told first they were going to send a letter of verification of injuries, they decided to not do that since it appeard too consuming! My law firms are sending the packets now with the money figure with no deductions and we can verify our injuries then. First I was told they wanted all packets sent by October, now they are saying no later the December 2015. My records are in the review process, they say I should recieve my packet anytime!! Originally they wanted all paid by December 2015-January 2016!! Not sure what is going on!

  22. Linda November 21, 2015 at 7:37 am - Reply

    Advocate: Your stating legislature,judges, paralegals are “still here” Explain after all the years and injuries why are the products still being implanted. I have no shame in stating “”it’s a money making scam”. The evidence is clear! 2 FDA warnings, women dying, infections that can’t be cured only temporarily masked with antibiotic after antibiotic. Johnson and Johnson destroys records despite court orders mandating they be preserved. Tell me advocate what were the consequences for their legal wrong-doings? Thousands of dollars spent on the Batista case and a reasonable settlement awarded for her injuries by a jury that heard the facts. Explain to us how it goes back into the hands of judges. who then over turn the whole process. If a professional says “there will be no more extensions or excuses”. As a voting member of society I want to believe that. I would like to see the evidence where legislatures are advocating to get this OFF THE MARKET. The damage is done to the women who are blogging on this site. The damage is permanent. Criminals have a right to a speedy trial but mesh victims can wait for years. I’m not asking you ,the legislatures or the judges to walk in my shoes for a day. I am and have written to everyone including my legislators and congressmen asking that they advocate to get it off the market. Lets protect the women who are being lined up and told “it’s the gold standard treatment”. How much money are these corporations making using these implants? There is woman after woman blogging about how rudely they are treated when they call attorneys to get information about their case. No it’s not every para legal or law office but there are several women blogging about it. You accuse me of making statements that hurts the cases of women. Why don’t you take a deep breath and listen to what victims are saying. A news letter could go out twice a year from the legal offices and up-date women on what is happening. If it were not for this site, we would get minimal to no information at all. A $40.000, $100,.000, or five million dollars is not going to take away the damage that women have. It will allow them to get on-going medical care. Advocacy is speaking out for constituents, listening to constituents, informing constituents, and with this product , it is truly getting it off the market!!!! I am sure para legals, judges, maybe even you are working hard on these cases. In terms of legislatures, FDA, I have not seen any action taken to address getting these products off the market. THAT MEANS THE CORPORATIONS CONTINUE TO MAKE MONEY, IMPLANTING PHYSICIANS CONTINUE TO MAKE MONEY. WOMEN AND FAMILIES ARE SPENDING LIFE SAVINGS TO GET THE MESH OUT. HOSPITALS ARE MAKING MONEY FROM REMOVALS, HOTELS ARE MAKING MONEY FROM WOMEN THAT ARE TRAVELING OUT OF STATE FOR SURGERY. PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES ARE MAKING MONEY OFF OF PAIN MEDICATIONS, AND SUPPLIES TO TREAT THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY MESH. For the sake of clarification, “money making scam did not say attorneys or para legals or judges. However if I hear “there will be NO MORE EXTENSIONS, I want to believe it or at least provide an explanation to your constituents why it is being extended. If I hear 3 year follow up studies are required to keep the product on the market. Then as a constituent I want to know, WHAT IS BEING STUDY AND HOW FAR ALONG ARE THESE STUDIES. I want to know that the FDA is monitoring outcomes to see if the mesh product are still causing the HORRIBLE EFFECT IN WOMEN. I would love to hear a legislature from any state say this company destroyed pertinent documents needed for these cases and now they are trying to hide evidence that these products are decomposing in their packages before they are implanted, therefor all surgeries in the future will be halted, UNTIL THEY ARE PROVEN TO BE SAFE! I would like to see attorneys that are working these cases to publish some information about progress, lack of progress. I would like to seethe financial benefits these corporations reap STOP

    • Jane Akre November 21, 2015 at 5:19 pm - Reply

      Linda, the thing that so complicates this issue, is that some women have no complications with pelvic mesh. That is probably much more true for a small sling than a large POP mesh (the more mesh the more mess) but no one can really explain that. Is it the practitioner ? The better docs say proudly “yes, that’s the problem.” But we know of many urogynecologists who have had problems with their implanted patients. Until we know why some women react, why not use the precautionary principle and use more conservative measures before a polypropylene permanent mesh implant? It absolutely makes no sense to continue down the same road with more more than 120,000 lawsuits filed! There is a problem! Don’t keep adding to it by continuing to implant a PERMANENT medical device that may cause a lifetime of problems… isn’t this obvious? Apparently not.

      • stopmeshimplants November 21, 2015 at 10:26 pm - Reply

        I think that is the most difficult part to accept with all of this mesh mess. People are dying from these mesh products. You don’t see GM saying we only have had a few die and the rest of the people are safe with out faulty ignition switches. So we are going to go ahead and keep the faulty ignition switches on the market! No! They pulled them! They admitted their wrong doing and GM has been punished. Why is this not the same?

        I am glad there are women who have not yet been harmed by their mesh implants. It doesn’t change the fact how much I suffer on a daily basis or how severely my family has been impacted by this mesh. We do not want the possibility of more people being harmed by this mesh. That’s it. It’s just that simple. Please someone listen and help us to get these products off the market! Tell these pharmaceutical companies no more mesh and hold them accountable for our pain and suffering. It is shocking that nothing can stop this nightmare from happening to others. It just infuriates me and it makes me so sad at the same time. Thanks for listening Jane.

        • Jane Akre November 22, 2015 at 10:13 pm - Reply

          You are welcome. I continue to believe this is the woman story of the decade or longer…. an unbelievable dark chapter in women’s health not unlike thalidomide, the Dalkon Shield, breast implants etc. Why are women the subject of so much sketchy medical devices? Because their product marketing research shows women are more likely to seek out medical care and solutions. Manufacturers know this and are so willing to accommodate.

        • anonymous November 22, 2015 at 10:33 pm - Reply

          My only question is do you really want something 30% chance is too much even a 1% chance if its faulty its faulty in this mesh is

  23. Jamie November 21, 2015 at 7:27 pm - Reply

    Hi To All

    I have read a lot of the posted stories here and on the other blogs associated with the Mesh, I also read an update on Judge Goodwin stating how he hears the frustrated,out poured cries and that the law firms that are active and working with him are some of the top Attorneys that are & that we must take an active play in our own cases ? I also read that the 18 & today were the start of MDL in Wv South and that there were 8,000 terminated and inactive cases let go? I looked up the Mdl and found all the cases in the states of live in an representation of the Firm that represents it, when it was filed and if it has been terminated or is carrying on.Though there were 19,000 filed cases as i said above 8,000 terminated or inactive. I looked for my firm and my name but to no avail found ? On my pedicular situation I have been sent to a Special Master as one person posted and I really have not heard anything from them as I called three days ago to be proactive asking who,what where,when,how was all this to be presented to the judge,the Csr was very nice took my questions and the main attorney never called me back:( I did however see my attorneys name in the court e-mail so that is my next attempt to see where it stands from here. You can’t back out on the representation and if they offer you a aggregate settlement & you don’t take it, they can try to drop you ? but then you go to your state bar website to see what the law is on that as the judge also stated that they cannot, there are court appointed council members to make sure that you are totally covered from that happening! I do feel that it will happen just don’t know exactly when or how much as I have been told this month about getting a award letter that was in june 15 for Nov ? If I did not have written documentation on that explained in detail on the proceedings than I could say it is a scam of representation,but it is binding on their part for me or I wouldn’t of agreed to it ! This has been the longest, drawn out nightmare of a health condition I could of possibly asked for on top of me having hep c and chronic RA amongst necrosis of my liver,3 decades I have been living in pain and no available successful upon completion treatment. Today it is available for 100% cure & it is thousands not to mention I can’t take any Pain meds because of my liver an Acetophetimon cannot have, advil not good, no Dr will Rx me cuz of it. I have always worked myself even with my disease, since 2005 when I went in for a routine hysterectomy I woke up much to my surprise with this implant, my mother who is a Rn told me, she was outaged at this Dr & said I did not need a hernia hammock inside of me that a small stiche would of sufficed just fine! My job @ the time paid the surgery 35,000 later & then 6wks later it fell out through my vaginal wall,my sig other had it pierce him in his PP 🙁 & hurled me through the room on my back,went back to this dr that is when I should of had it taken out? I also read the disgusting report that they wrote on the revision surgery,just recently on obtaining my records I wanted to puke,I became so nauseated that I wanted to faint. Now 11yrs later 4 revisions and countless Dr’s not to mention the money my insurance paid for last year latest revision 57,000 dollars & the Dr”s were hardley compensated for it & the rest as well 🙁 that was on the market health care on top of it I have not been able to work for so long, I have been hurt from jobs I thought I could handle that were too physical, that wound me up in the Er with compounded injury, I also had a lot of pubic pain under the bone, Sex hurts, I have not completely run my Man away I’m lucky as sin to have him and him stick by my side,because we are not legally married he does not get a shot of no monies for pain & suffering as we are going on 30yrs. I feel so helpless as I’m not working,I’m 55 & jobs are not out there for us,I cannot lift a whole lot and It is so depressing that I cannot contribute to my household like I should and it is all on my mans shoulders he is starting to get rattled from my cage & is telling me to get work that he cannot do it anymore !!! I cannot tell you I cannot loose him it is not fair to either of us,I applied for social security disability as other times & I was told I need vocational Rehabilitation ? Right, at my age I said what can I possibly be careered to do now at my age ? Unbelievable I said I didn’t qualify because I needed to be in a wheel chair before I’m to be able to qualify?

    Something doesn’t give I will also be on the street and all the things I have will be gone soon, I’m going to loose my car here and I have a 22yr old who is struggling I can’t even help her, I have a 32yr old son who has mental disabilities and is in Prison for the last 16yrs and has taken its toll on me.I don’t want to leave the house and get ready,shop,eat,drink,I’m on seroquel to sleep and menopause to go stir crazy,no friends and angry all the time inside,I have been going to church and read my bible and see the calamity that is happening in this world and my crap seems insignificant but it’s not & I’m entitled to this like all of us are,now I have hip pain running into my knee,my brain has stopped talking to my bladder it has been slung so tight that I can not hold any significant amount of urine,tried caths,so miserable and sick n tired of being sick and tired, I hope soon we all hear something I must have faith and try to be positive as I seek in prayer everyday,God says this is the Times Of The Signs & the Signs Of The Times!!! TO Ms Barb one of the attorneys you mentioned happens to be mine as well and I did call them as I mentioned here an no response verbally, be careful on the injections cortozone causes cataracts:(

  24. anony November 22, 2015 at 12:11 pm - Reply

    “Linda, the thing that so complicates this issue, is that some women have no complications with pelvic mesh.”


    That is impossible. I would die stating that any woman who has mesh who has no complications right now, will in the future. It is impossible for them not to have problems as the mesh device(s) is and are flawed. The longer it stays in the female body, the older the woman gets, = more problems. And when the problems start, it is for life. It will never stop. Even when the mesh is removed, the damage has been done. The immune system has been compromised. There is no magic of getting well.

    What is killing women is not only the mesh, but the gag orders they are under. The defense asked for the gag orders to protect their brands.

    • Jane Akre November 22, 2015 at 10:06 pm - Reply

      Sorry but it is true… many women do okay with mesh, in the short tun. I have a friend with a SUI sling and is okay. I dont discuss it with her but its been 8 years or so…..I don’t want her to think negatively……but guestimating,,, about 30% have complications, same as hernia mesh which has been published. No so for sui and pop long term. Before anyone jumps on me, obviously the procedure of putting it in, not informing patients, an inability to remove it, none of that is okay!!!! Mesh should not be a first line defense…. Most of the removal docs I’ve spoken to say they use it sparingly,,,, but maybe that is what they think I want to hear.

      • meshie November 23, 2015 at 12:23 pm - Reply

        But everyone keeps forgetting the DOCTORS and the medical community still do NOT think mesh is the problem, so when they all get old it will be because they are older not mesh… It has to be the medical community that says enough is enough and that’s not happening……

        • Jane Akre November 23, 2015 at 12:38 pm - Reply

          Some are beginning to realize mesh is a problem. That is, the doctors who read!!!!!!!

          • Still Standing November 24, 2015 at 12:39 am

            Jane. The problem is the Doctors are reading scientific journals such as the ones below. Research is showing that the complication rate for vaginal mesh is around ten %. That number has been pretty consistent in the long term analysis of vaginal mesh. The complication rate with women who had biologic mesh is about 5%. This is what they read. My doctor also never used transvaginal mesh because he said it was counterintuitive to put a rather stiff object into pelvic muscle, which needs to be fluid. However, he will use mesh when necessary. He especially is a proponent of non surgical treatment of SUI.

            However, what we read on this site is only women who are having mesh problems. We dont have women here who have had pelvic mesh with no problems so it is hard sometimes to see the bigger picture. Research is being done to study the brain mechanism that creates high responders to pain and and other research is determining what type of physicians had the highest comlications from mesh. Rural docs who do less surgery have increased complications. So, they are looking into finding correlations that will provide better understanding of what went terribly wrong. It is likely to be type of mesh( not all mesh), skill of surgeon, and some patient factors. They do know that obesity, diabetes, smoking, poor nutrition and lack of pelvic floor rehabilitation and other forms of exercise play a big role in mesh implantation success or failure. So, there are many ongoing studies and many more will come.

            Read these article links if you are interested in the type of info they read.



          • Jane Akre November 24, 2015 at 7:57 am

            Thank you for this. So many authors are also preceptors for companies so it is vitally important to ask if they are in some way conflicted with mesh makers. I like the common sense approach of your doctor. Is common sense not?

          • Janet November 24, 2015 at 8:39 am

            I was running 13 miles 3 to 4 times a week
            I do not smoke nor drink
            I am not a diabetic , my health has been good until this crap
            Boston scientific made another mesh in the 90’s they got lawsuits with it and settled close to 800 in 2003
            so why in the world would you put this stuff on the market until you know 100% certain it was right?
            These companies are wrong

        • Janet November 23, 2015 at 2:38 pm - Reply

          I do not know about
          I have had 2 gynecologist that will not do that procedure
          As both stated they knew it was the wrong thing to do because you do not mess with the vaginal wall like that.
          Unfortunately it was after I had the hysterectomy when I knew something was wrong
          I have had 3 urogynecologist state the same also, they all state will not use, never have used due
          to the vaginal wall being very delicate and it is used for only 2 things babies and sex.
          They stated they knew there was going to be issues

          • Jane Akre November 23, 2015 at 2:41 pm

            Wish more doctors showed this type of common sense……

  25. janet November 22, 2015 at 9:40 pm - Reply

    Well does anyone kn I w what exactly happened with the meeting last week with manufacturers and Judge Goodwin.

    Are we still in the same place know where with this mesh

    I guess my attorneys were right we r looking at another 7,8,10 years for anything you happen

    I can not believe they let these manufacturers get by with butchering women

  26. Chell November 22, 2015 at 10:19 pm - Reply

    I am concerned and angered that I can’t ever find any information about Caldera Medical. I can’t seem to get much information out of my attorney’s office about the status of the cases with Caldera either. The only thing I have been told is that they don’t want to go to trial and they are in an “interpleader phase” of talks. I am very frustrated because I have had several procedures and three surgeries and preparing for a fourth and I do not have a clue what is going on with this company. How have they managed to stay out of the MDL and virtually out of the media as well? This scares me to a point when all I hear about are the larger companies like J&J and Boston Scientific. My attorney’s office has repeatedly told me that Caldera is a smaller company than J&J so does that mean they do not plan on treating my case the same as the larger cases? I am just very concerned and the lack of information about this company as well as the lack of comments from victims of this manufacturer is worrisome to me. If you know of any news or of any victims of Caldera please post. Thank you.

  27. anonymous November 22, 2015 at 10:33 pm - Reply

    Do you really want something that is made from the same material as indoor outdoor carpet inside of you

    • Jane Akre November 22, 2015 at 10:44 pm - Reply

      Personally, no way! Especially since it cannot be removed!

      • Janet November 23, 2015 at 12:45 pm - Reply


        Do ,you think that maybe he has made it clear this time that he would like negotiations to come faster for us with the mesh

        I just like these others it has cost us to keep our medical up regarding these issues because of there mesh..

        Once again Jane Thank You for being there for us

        • Jane Akre November 23, 2015 at 1:32 pm - Reply

          Just got some insider info…. publishing now. thanks I will try and see if I can get the transcript..I found out the transcript only covers the 19th because the 18th was in Judge chambers. Would you like to be a fly on the wall there? The transcript of the 19th only covers about 20 minutes of discussion.

  28. Mamohio November 23, 2015 at 6:20 am - Reply

    @stillstanding my mother had the burch procedure during her hysterectomy. I am busy with our own campaign maybe you could rally in your own state. All women here I wish you the best. I wish you the best with all your knowledge, share it with your mesh sisters. I wish you all the best!

    • Barb November 24, 2015 at 10:43 pm - Reply

      Mamohio……………..I have had 3 revisions with 2 defective devices in Juy 15, 2015 I had the most invasive surgery laproscopy, she needed to find what mesh had eroded in my womanhood cut way the pieces she could see performed cystocopy, D^C to remove bis of mesh and performed a hystercopy! Operatining room hour and 45 min so appeal I have to go. I’m in Category3 however not sure what injuries are going to be included! Would have been Category 4 if surgery was performed before deadline, surgeon looking closely t both orgn prolapse dropped bladder behind my vagina, UTI”S, Bladder and over growth of bacteria, sever pelvic pain, no intimacy, if I have time I’m going to email a particular attorney who was involved with settlement talks. Jane said that each firm were hving their own litigatins so what 2 firms are getting their clients from AMS are not going to get the same for their clients!! These talks and decisions were already in place before hand we and our attorney’s should have the upper hand and much more attorney client communication needed especially after they came to settlement agreements if they had informed every client I will guarantee you they would not have had the dotted line signed!! There just seems to be so much corrupt going on with in court systems and I believe Jane is right they may have lost interest in our cases now because of the money payouts are of no interest!!!

      • Barb November 24, 2015 at 10:56 pm - Reply

        I wanted to add I will be having surgery for both organ prolapse and burch method will be my only choice!! I want all mesh out no one will do this however I’m hoping when the Burch method is done she will try her best to remove mesh!! I also have sepsis I have read 3 different stages one stage and cause if from multiple UTI’S!! AMS is not compensating for any infections…………….this is an infection through yur bloodstream, hospitalized several times been on an antibiotic for 3 years to help and prevent any infections I had this first night mare at 47 multiple diagnosis been told due to several complications I will never again be 100%!! Who puts a number on some thing like this???Sever pelvic pain, no intimacy, seeked out counselling, being on pain management, days of not driving, sitting laying, standing, I have been to so many specialist, surgeons, now they want me to go to another urologist to see if collagen injections would be a good idea, medicare won’t pay for hat, continue to be destroyed economically and as we all know so much more diagnosis could be made since so much uncertainty!!! No after having no signs of liver issues 6 months ago my enzymes are off the scale!! May you all be blessed this Thanksgiving and please let’s keep sharing our stories that’ what keeps so many of us continue to fight!! Love to all……….Amen

      • Mamohio December 3, 2015 at 12:09 am - Reply

        Just make sure your Dr fills out surgery intention date and you get it mailed priority. I believe you have to take the settlement offer which will be higher once your Dr gets in the proposed surgery date. Let your lawyers know what you are planning so that they can give you the best legal advice. The more your get the more they get which I know sucks but they do have time invested. I think 40% fee is too high but we couldn’t have done it ourselves. The cheaper lawyers are not always that great either. I would make sure if you agree to a settlement with your dr surgery schedule you can then file what’s called an EIF (extraordinary injury fund) to ask for more money like spousal and marital damages, and other info that was left out. Pain and suffering esp if you had to go thru pt. That was painful for me. Your will have to do the EIF paperwork on your own. The lawyers wont help but they still get their cut. Which is bulls*&%! Don’t forget monetary losses, jobs losses,Ira./401k losses if you had to use like me to save our house, early w/d penalty if before 59 1/2. Get all you can. You can pm me on mam fb if you need ideas on losses. You cannot file EIF unless you accept first settlement. I didnt get much because J &J caused most of my damages. They claim women who turn down settlements the extra money will be split with the ones who did settle. I dont know if thats just a lawyer tactic ton get you to settle but sounds like you may have a pretty good settlement chance. None of us will be whole but no amount of money will ever make us complete. Good luck talk with your Dr and lawyers mine is just what I was told by my lawyer.

        • Jane Akre December 3, 2015 at 9:34 am - Reply

          Thank you so much MAM,,,, that is very good advice. Here is the FB page for all to visit. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MeshAwarenessMovement/

        • anonymous December 3, 2015 at 10:28 am - Reply

          I’m not sure where to post this so I’m just going to put it out here I’m asking for prayers for my mesh sister vicki. She is facing another surgery and I believe this is her 8th or 9th she’s at the hospital now and I believe surgery is tomorrow please pray that everything goes well this is another surgery because of the complications of mesh her poor body has been through so much as many of us have been she is one of the sweetest kindest people I know and doesn’t deserve this I guess none of us do the right now it is her time that we all need to just lift her up in prayers please

          • Jane Akre December 3, 2015 at 10:47 am

            Thank you for advocating for your mesh family!!!

          • Still Standing December 8, 2015 at 1:21 am

            How is Vicki doing.?

          • anonymous December 8, 2015 at 9:05 am

            Surgery went good and more mesh was taken out she’s in a lot of pain which is understandable.. unfortunately she has to make a long trip from LA to home today in the back of an SUV as many of us have had to do. Please pray that her journey is as easy and as pain free as it can be. I just pray she gets better soon she’s been through way way too much

          • Jane Akre December 8, 2015 at 11:01 am

            Thank you for being her advocate and her voice!!

          • anonymous December 8, 2015 at 11:15 am

            I am here for my mesh sisters beyond all of the arguing and posting I pray for us all that some day we can be healed and whole again

    • addison December 1, 2015 at 6:04 am - Reply

      Thank you, MAMOHIO. Prayers and best wishes to you, too.

  29. Still Standing November 24, 2015 at 12:12 am - Reply

    Hi Mamohio, have not done a rally and probably wont. I did email the show Housecalls that is on the Fox News channel on Sunday. They have two doctors that address questions for the week. I asked them to do a section on surgical mesh. I will let you know if they take it on. I also run a pelvic pain support group and teach other pain management classes, so I approach the issue in a different way. It is where I decided I could do the most good

    • addison December 1, 2015 at 7:12 am - Reply

      Great idea, Still Standing. I hope you hear from them. Good luck and thanks to MAMOHIO, too.

  30. msm November 24, 2015 at 6:01 pm - Reply

    From StillStanding:

    “Research is being done to study the brain mechanism that creates high responders to pain”:

    Is this inferring that patients with mesh complications have a low pain tolerance and have an increased response to pain? Considering the vast differences in the histories of mesh patients, that would be nearly impossible. I liken it to the 1 to 10 pain scale. Someone who has never had an injury, surgery, given birth, etc. Will rate the pain of a minor injury as a 10 while someone with more pain ” experience ” would only give a rating of 5 for the same injury. Yet most physicians fail to understand this.

    Perhaps because of their own limited pain experience. Pain is subjective. Even an elevated systolic BP, which is often used to gauge pain, varies with the patient’s pain experience. The body has learned to manage autonomic functions in order to survive. Anyone who might think for a moment that pain is experienced the same for the victim of a crash who spends hours pinned inside with crushed legs and the person whose worst injury is a paper cut, is not living in the real world.

    “High responders” ? Really? Please tell me that I misunderstood the term.

    • msm November 24, 2015 at 6:13 pm - Reply

      Oops. The sentence above reading as:

      Anyone who might think for a moment that pain is experienced the same for the victim of a crash who spends hours pinned inside with crushed legs and the person whose worst injury is a paper cut, is not living in the real world..

      Should read as follows:

      Anyone who might think for a moment that pain experienced from a minor sprain is the same for the patient who has a history of a crash resulting in severe injuries as for the person whose worst injury in the past was a paper cut, is not living in the real world.

      Hopefully that states my position more clearly.

    • Jane Akre November 24, 2015 at 11:56 pm - Reply

      I’m sure she didn’t mean to imply that mesh pain is due to a high response to pain.

      • msm November 25, 2015 at 8:17 am - Reply

        I hope I didn’t seem angry at StillStanding.

        My anger is at those who will conduct the research. Just like the research done by the mesh manufacturers and the physicians who profit from the “gold standard minimally invasive” procedures and those who want to be absolved from any liability from their past and present use and overuse of mesh. I believe that manufacturers and pro-mesh physicians are trying to establish low pain tolerance as the “gold standard” defense as opposed to all of their other excuses of physical issues of obesity, diabetes, smoking, previous surgery, etc. all of which vary from person to person. But if they can conclude that mesh problems occur predominantly in “high responders” to pain, they can use it as a defense across the board.

        Just my distrust of the mesh profiteers behind most research and testing. Not at all directed at StillStanding.

    • addison December 1, 2015 at 7:02 am - Reply

      MSM, thank you for your comments concerning pain and many other subjects. I understand your point and frustration here. It is sometimes difficult to read about and try to make sense of pain, tolerance, etc. I’ve quite easily handled most surgeries in my life… dealt well with pain, rarely needed the prescribed pain medications and had no lasting complications. Unfortunately, that which has come from erosions, removals, infections and nerve damage is unlike anything felt prior. Long, difficult road that I’m trying to comprehend and get through. Thanks again for your contributions, and I hope you’re doing well.

  31. Still Standing November 25, 2015 at 11:54 am - Reply

    I think you misunderstood my post. It did not imply that pain is an objective number for all who have pain. It means the exact opposite. Pain is a physiological and social, and emotional experience. Increasing scientific research has shown that there are some genetic markers for high response to pain as well as sensitization along neural pathways that make the individual respond to pain in a more intense way, especially pain that becomes chronic. Identifying how pain impacts the body holistically will actually give doctors a better understanding to how to treat individuals who are in pain. To give you an example from your example, even if two individuals have the exact crash and same serious injuries, they will have different experiences of pain. Based on many factors, some people just have higher response to pain than others. Of course a paper cut pain is not the same pain as severe chronic pain. Women on this site who have pain experience it differently. You cannot predict the degree of pain based on the cause of the pain. It is the chronic nature of pain that is being studied to gain better insight into how we perceive pain. It is a difficult thing to figure out. The pain scale is obviously subjective and we will be seeing a move away from that as research opens more doors into the neurological components of pain. The good news now is that chronic pain is considered a disease in itself instead of a vital sign and that will force the medical community to take a closer look at each individual’s pain. New scales are being developed and validated but that is a long process.

    Below is a link to a short pain study where they refer to high responders. i will look up and also post the 2011 document that calls for changing how chronic pain is diagnosed and treated in America. It is interesting and might help clarify this issue.


  32. Still Standing November 25, 2015 at 11:59 am - Reply

    Here is a summary of the blueprint for changing how we address pain. There is a full text document somewhere but it may need to be purchased. Look around.minhave the full document but Inthink I got it from the university intralibrary loan system.


  33. johnny carter December 1, 2015 at 4:27 pm - Reply

    So what can I about my case I’m filling out of court and I haven’t heard nothing

    • Jane Akre December 1, 2015 at 5:52 pm - Reply

      Do you try and talk to your law firm? You know they will be in communication when its time to collect their 40%. Please advocate for yourself and become the squeaky wheel… Sometimes that is the only thing that works. Become knowledgeable, collect your medical and surgical records, know what your case is all about so you can have an educated conversation with your law firm.

  34. Mamohio December 3, 2015 at 12:26 am - Reply

    Just an fyi to constipation sufferers from mesh complications, pain meds. This will not hurt you like laxatives so steer away from laxatives it will eventually cause your system to depend on them. I just got generic Miralax at Walmarr (cheaper). Take 2 capfuls mix with 12 ozs of favorite drink. It will be so much easier on you and POP. The grueling constipation makes your POP worsen I am now a grade lower and may have to have a hysterectomy. I wish I would have known. My proctologist and gynecologist said it is safe to use daily if necessary. Consult your own drs and pharmacists before taking my advice. I just know it saved a lot of pain and inevitable an early hysterectomy. I’m double riming my kegels to help get back some of my prolapse I caused. I hope this helps!

  35. Debbie M January 14, 2016 at 11:43 am - Reply

    Has there been any progress with Coloplast / mentor setting? I were told back in February 2015 an again in September 2015 by my attorney that they were hoping for a settlement by the end of 2015. However that did not happen. Are they getting any closer to settling? Is there any way to see where my case is in the process other then contacting my attorney? And havevthey set an amount.
    Thank you for your time.

    • Jane Akre January 14, 2016 at 12:26 pm - Reply

      Debbie- You can go to the do district of wv and click on Coloplast. in small words above click on Orders. This will unveil

      Read the latest orders. It appears Andrus Wagstaff is settling some of its Coloplast claims.

      • Janet January 14, 2016 at 1:26 pm - Reply

        It’s sad that with our health issues and surgeries

        And being as patient for all these years

        We are still know where with settlements

        I have 2 meshes by Boston 1 is the Orybtrx and the other I would have to look. 3 surgeries, so many procedures just to try to eliminate the pain ..losing everything I had and nothing in 10yrs niw

        • anonymous January 14, 2016 at 3:17 pm - Reply

          I understand how you feel Debbie. You are not alone I’m sorry to say. I’ve been waiting a long time to get a settlement so that I can get further medical care and nothing is happening either on my end. Different company same results. It is not until Judge Goodwin decides start sending cases back to the home state so that they can be sued in a court will anything get done. I believe that may be judged goodwin has tried his best but there’s no way that he can handle all of these. I’ve lost so much I can never go back and gain back. Being permanently disabled there is little or no hope for me and my future. I suffer daily from terrible pain and no one seems to care. How hard it is to wake up in the morning only to face pain loneliness desperation and little or no hope. I hope someday somehow someway our story gets out but I don’t have much hope for that either. We were the pioneers in this we were the guinea pigs and no one cares what we lose what we go through except those have gone through it with you. So Debbie all I can tell you is reach out to God reach out to the church talk to friends or family that will not abandon you and try to hang on. But do not wait for your settlement go on and live your life the best you can without it and I know for many of us just like me that’s almost impossible but do the best you can. We’ve all lost so much already in our lives for those of us who are seriously injured. It will be years before we get any justification or settlements I know that now. At least I know one thing if nothing else my family will have a little bit of money hopefully make their life easier. I hope I can hang on until then and I will try my best to be there when they finally have to pay me. But at least I know one thing if the illness’s that I’m getting all the time take my body I know that someday someway God will make these people account for the wrong doings. God bless you Debbie and try to like I said hang on do the best you can and don’t even think about the settlement because then when it finally comes for you it’ll be like a birthday gift or something I’ll pray for you my dear

          • Janet January 14, 2016 at 4:34 pm

            I will have to stop my medical care soon

            I try so hard to pay to have this taken care of

            Medication, Dr bills, surgery co- pys.. I can not keep taking money to keep my health up from this mesh.

            I pray everyday for justice but it never comes

            Just the pain everyday..I wish and pray these manufacturers should have to pay some t u people of fine on top of our settlements

  36. karin November 4, 2017 at 5:39 pm - Reply

    Tvt slings south africa
    Worse nightmare

    • Jane Akre November 4, 2017 at 10:52 pm - Reply

      Karin- do you know others in South Africa suffering complications from mesh implants? There seem to be few global boundaries where mesh is not sold.

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