Dr. Raz Contributed to Plaintiffs’ Injuries, Not Defective Mesh

//Dr. Raz Contributed to Plaintiffs’ Injuries, Not Defective Mesh

Dr. Raz Contributed to Plaintiffs’ Injuries, Not Defective Mesh

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Suzanne M and Dr. Raz after explant surgery


MND, December 3, 2015 ~ It’s not surprising that the defense team in Sherrer v Boston Scientific said that two pelvic meshes on trial in this case – the Boston Scientific Solyx mesh and the C.R Bard Align mesh –  are safe and effective and have been cleared by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

That assurance has been said of every other type of polypropylene pelvic mesh that has gone before a jury, no matter which product made by seven pelvic mesh manufacturers facing litigation, even those found to be defectively designed.

What was unique in the first day of this trial in state court in Kansas City, MO is who was blamed for the pelvic injuries to the plaintiff, registered nurse, Eve Sherrer.

Ms. Sherrer, 62, had a Solyx mesh implanted in October 2010 and a Bard Align implanted about five weeks later when the first mesh malfunctioned. After continuing pain –  groin, back, pelvic area pain, she decided to have the mesh removed by the world-renowned mesh expert, Dr. Shlomo Raz, a urologist at UCLA. Women come from around the globe to have a removal surgery with Dr. Raz, who comes closer than most any other doctor in the world, to a full mesh excision.

But there was no love lost for Dr. Raz from the defense team – Robert Adams representing Boston Scientific (Shook Hardy) and Lori Cohen representing C.R. Bard (Greenberg Traurig).

Robert Adams, Shook Hardy

Robert Adams, Shook Hardy

Appearing for Boston Scientific, Mr. Adams said Dr. Raz had attempted to remove the pelvic mesh from Ms. Sherrer in April 2014 and that caused more harm than good.

Going one step further, Adams said Dr. Raz, who was a proponent of polypropylene pelvic mesh, made a 180 degree turnabout when he discovered he could make more money by removing it.  Adams said when word got out that Dr. Raz could remove a woman’s troubling pelvic mesh, more and more women came to him from around the globe to have him fix their complications.  Now, not surprisingly, he’s a big advocate of removing mesh. Please see Dr. Raz debate mesh use at AUA conference here.


Never mind, that Dr. Raz is not in private practice but is on the staff at UCLA where he heads the urology department. Salaried employees are rarely compensated based on the number of surgeries they perform. Never mind that women swear Dr. Raz gave them back their life when they had no hope.

Representing Bard, Lori Cohen presented the jury with the same premise but went one step further. Not only did Dr. Raz go from mesh proponent to opponent, but the plaintiff’s current complaints are partially due to Dr. Raz’s surgical procedures. Ms. Sherrer was not properly evaluated by him before he decided to remove the Align, a TVT, and the Solyx, a TVT-O, and Dr. Raz never investigated the cause of her pain.

Lori Cohen

Lori Cohen

It was an unnecessary surgery, Cohen said. The Align was working and there was no reason to remove it. Dr Raz did more harm than good to Ms. Sherrer, she said. 

She characterized him as one of the few “outliers” who doesn’t  believe in pelvic mesh implants to correct incontinence and prolapse in women


Ms. Sheerer, art by Akre

Ms. Sheerer, art by Akre


Eve Sherrer is an attractive, blonde woman who looks a decade younger than her 60s’s. She likely will testify in her own behalf in this three-week trial.

To deflect blame for the medical devices, both defense attorneys pointed to the medical condition of Ms. Sherrer prior to her mesh implants. Eight days before the Solyx mesh implant, she had bursitis on right side of the hip diagnosed along with a mild degenerative joint disease of the right hip and muscle spasms in the low back.  She had a three-year history of right hip pain.

Today she has severe osteoarthritis on the top of the femur. Since it’s bone-on-bone pain, a hip replacement is recommended. Osteoarthritis, degenerative disc disease, spine issues and multiple other pelvic surgeries account for her hip, leg and groin pain as well as a gait disturbance, a shortened vagina, urge incontinence, pelvic floor spasms and lower back pain.

According to the defense, none of that can be blamed on her polypropylene mesh implants.

Solyx is not risk- free, there are no devices that are risk free, said Adams who added it comes down to balancing risk with benefits of any product. With half of women over the age of 50 who’ve had a vaginal delivery, approximately 300,000 women in the U.S. will need surgery ever year.

Adams did not add that many of those are Burch Procedures or use of a woman’s own fascia to hold up sagging pelvic organs.  That’s the same surgery Dr. Raz eventually performed on Ms. Sherrer in 2014, without mesh.Solyx sis system


The plaintiffs in this case must prove, by the preponderance of the evidence, that the Solyx and Align are both defective and caused physical damages to Ms. Sherrer. They must also prove that the alleged failure to warn her physicians about the risks, caused her damages. They won’t be able to do that, said Cohen.

Dr hill sherrer caseThe defense team told jurors they will present experienced experts during the trial who all believe in polypropylene mesh, Cohen called “The Gold Standard.”

Other things to consider jurors were told – that professional medical societies support the use of mesh; and that the treating physicians of Ms. Sherrer all still use mesh. Even Dr. Hill who removed the failed Solyx mesh in October 2010, turned around and put in another mesh, the Bard Align.

Dr Hill is an expert at mesh, added Ms. Cohen.  He taught other doctors and was a preceptor for Bard.  A preceptor is hired by a company as a consultant and compensated for convincing other doctors to use the medical device.  Almost all of the mesh manufacturer who are facing thousands of product liability cases employed the preceptor model to increase sales. Some publications require that relationship be disclosed because of the potential conflict-of-interest.

Dr. Vladimir Iakovlov, Pathologist

Dr. Vladimir Iakovlov, Pathologist

Cohen then took a swipe at the experts the plaintiffs plan to bring to trial. Dr. Peggy Pence never worked at the FDA and is not a medical doctor, said Cohen; Dr. Michael Margolis disagrees with the medical community regarding mesh; Dr. Bruce Rosenzweig never implanted an Align; Vladimir Iakovlev, a pathologist who will show the jury the degradation of mesh under a microscope, never practiced medicine in the U.S.

Cohen went on to praise the expertise of the experts the defense plans to call during the trial.


During his opening, Ms. Cohn said she was proud to be representing Bard and especially honored because it involves women’s issues adding that the polypropylene sling has improved the quality of life for millions of women.

Cohen went on saying the medical device industry is heavy regulated by the FDA and to suggest the Align is not safe is ludicrous.  A few minutes in her presentation, the jury may have noticed a power point document that said the FDA Guidance does not require any clinical testing.

To defend this company is really rewarding, she said. #


By | 2015-12-03T22:00:34+00:00 December 3rd, 2015|News|123 Comments

About the Author:

I’m National News Editor, Jane Akre and I began Mesh Medical Device News Desk aka Mesh News Desk (MND) in the summer of 2011 just after the Food and Drug Administration issued an explicit warning to the public that complications associated with surgical mesh used for prolapse repair (POP) and incontinence (SUI) are NOT rare! That was the starting point for the litigation you see today and thousands of lawsuits have been filed by women whose lives have been altered, some permanently, by the use of this petroleum-based product.


  1. Greg Vigna December 3, 2015 at 10:25 pm - Reply

    Defense is crazy to attack Dr. Raz… a gentleman who has spent his life working to improve the lives of women. Just nuts. Look how old he is. He doesn’t care about money. He does what he was born to do. Just nuts.

    • Beth December 3, 2015 at 10:47 pm - Reply

      Will the plaintiff get to rebuttal allegations against Dr. Raz?

      What were the jury’s expressions like when the defence was attacking Dr. Raz?

      • Jane Akre December 3, 2015 at 11:54 pm - Reply

        I’m not in the courtroom,,,, wish I could answer that. I’m getting a feed. Good question though. I’d love to sit there. Anyone in Kansas City who can answer those questions? I found it very costly to cover trials, but really very very interesting!

    • kitty December 4, 2015 at 7:45 am - Reply

      Could AUGS be behind this?

    • Aaron Leigh December 9, 2015 at 11:54 am - Reply

      100% agreed Dr. Vigna!

    • Nonie Wideman December 10, 2015 at 2:49 am - Reply

      You are right Greg. It is nuts to go after a doctor with a conscience, one that admitted to using mesh in the past and realizing the harm caused by the mesh did a 180 degree turnaround. His ethics are to be commended. I nearly had my head ripped off in some forums when I pointed out the 180 degree turn around. My point was that some doctors who used to implant mesh would be good candidates to remove the damn stuff when they had so much pelvic mesh experience, and not to boycott any doctor who once believed mesh to be safe. When doctors learn from their mistakes (trusting FDA clearance) we should applaud them for standing up against immense peer pressure to continue to use mesh and defend using it.

      Also it is criminal to ignore the fact that mesh complications can cause autoimmune disease… the FDA is not protecting us from the indiscriminate use of synthetic mesh! SHAME SHAME SHAME

      According to the FDA “CHRONIC INFLAMMATION: Inflammation is the normal tissue response to local injury. Acute inflammation is relatively short-lived (days) and characterized by neutrophils as the primary cellular infiltrate. In contrast, chronic inflammation can last up to months or longer, and is characterized by infiltration of macrophages and lymphocytes. Chronic inflammation may lead to immune granuloma formation and more serious immunological consequences, such as autoimmune disease.

      ” immunological consequences ” … perhaps we need to subpoena the FDA to testify about the effects of chronic inflammation caused by mesh incompatibility in a significant group of mesh implanted people. They know the truth, and are supposed to be experts. Can the FDA be subpoenaed ?

  2. deb December 3, 2015 at 11:21 pm - Reply

    Total BULL****. Dr. Raz has helped COUNTLESS women, and he doesn’t do it for the money. He could have retired and been long gone, a long time ago. Dr Raz debated at a May conference with another doc – stating why he was against mesh very clearly. It has to do with all the complications he’s seen, and patient care. This whole mesh mess is generated by greed… but, not from Dr. Raz. He would have a private practice and have his name up in lights if that was the case. And, besides, if there was really that much money to be made in full mesh removal, why aren’t a LOT MORE DOCS DOING IT!?

    Yes – he use to use mesh, and originally thought it was a good idea. Just like MOST doctors.

    However, UNLIKE most doctors, he was SMART enough, and CARING enough to change his mind when he saw all the countless complications coming in. UNLIKE most doctors, he no longer uses mesh. He actually does NOT promote it, and continue to LIE to women about how safe it is, in spite of the countless reported complications and 100,000 lawsuits.

    Unlike most doctors, he doesn’t go along with AUGs ridiculous statement that only tells half truths and picks and chooses parts of the FDA warnings, as if they were a bad bible thumper using select bible verses for their own agendas. (https://meshmenot.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/augs-addressing-mesh-complications-and-helping-patients-or-just-defending-mesh/).

    Unlike MOST doctors he will actually HELP the women having complications by removing the mesh, and not just tell them it’s in their heads or send them to pain management (https://meshmenot.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/partial-vs-full-mesh-removal-surgery/).

    He helps women after they have gone to numerous other “experts” that would not or did not help them.

    People travel from across the world to go to him. I went to him for TOT sling removal, after my local expert UROGYN in NY told me it was “impossible” to remove the part in my groin where my pain was from.

    Just look at his reviews, or check any support group. People are lining up to see him, because most everyone who has gone to him is singing his praises. He is literally one of the only ones really HELPING so many women!

    And, for the record, I also wound up with major hip problems, and needed a hip replacement after mesh. NOT from the removal… but from the problems set in motion FROM THE MESH implant. I had NO problems walking or with pelvic pain until AFTER mesh sling implant. NONE. And, I think doctors start looking for any excuse to blame things on OTHER than the mesh. Bursitis… Hip Dysplasia. Unless ladies go to a specialist that knows about mesh complications, and DOES mesh removal – they just get bounced around from doctor to doctor.

    And, what about all the other women who wind up on crutches, canes, walkers, wheelchairs.. This is NOT an uncommon problem from mesh: http://tinyurl.com/jdlfjmo

    These lawyers are really reaching. I hope more people set them strait!

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 12:49 pm - Reply

      When someone’s credibility or motivations are called into question they unfortunately are put in the very difficult position of being put in a defensive position and even though it is technically the accuser who bears the burden of proving thieir allegations, it damages the accused and cost them often a lot of money and time and psychological wellness to cope with defending themselves which is why most of us live in fear of litigation, much of which is frivolous.

      For the sake of the polypropelene mesh victims I pray that this physician is proven innocent of an accusations because these women need to know there is someone in the world they can trust. If he has been falsely accused IMHO the accuser should suffer an old time lynching but few people would be foolish enough to put forth such allegations without strong justification so where does that leave us? In a very sorrowful place I fear. It is best for us to refrain from telling ourselves things can not possibly get any worse because in truth they can get worse and we would do well to be prepared just in case they do. I am so sorry for all of you who have been such strong supporters of this physician. I really do not know anything about him. I only know I do not trust UCLA School of Medicine’s Dept. of Urology and I must assume the Dean of the SOM is not innocent in questionable matters concerning the Urology Department. But, I do not know. My heart goes out to all in our community who have been hurt by this story.


  3. Mindy December 3, 2015 at 11:28 pm - Reply

    Ok well that’s crazy! I just learned some news from this article about the defenses perceptors I was not aware of, but makes complete sense to me at this point. Explains why certain perceptors cannot admit to products having or causing problems. Wondering how many woman were treated by a perceptor and they don’t even know it and that’s why they have no answers. Just curious, food for women to think about.

    • Jane Akre December 3, 2015 at 11:53 pm - Reply

      Good question for your doc – Have you been a preceptor, consultant, teacher for a manufacturer?

      • Mindy December 4, 2015 at 3:17 pm - Reply


        I saw were your comments have to be approved. I was completely frustrated after reading this article to find that my doctor who did the implants was the named, Dr. Hill. Explains why he can’t give me answers to my questions. Like when I ask what keeps causing the uti’s I constantly have. Why are there 3 kinds of bacteria constantly growing in my bladder? ( I found that out from my GP).

        This totally explains why he just says “I just don’t know”. Yet feels completely bad about the complications I have had and has promised me that he will do his best to take care of me and the issues. I have seen him repeatedly for since January 2005 when the devices were implanted. He has done an excellent job of caring for me. I feel with these issues he is caught because he helped market these devices.

        Please don’t post this comment, but I wanted you to know the truth. You can contact me by actual email if you have further questions.


      • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 12:58 pm - Reply

        DITTO, VERY good question. Will they answer, will they be truthful? Or will they ignore you or change the subject in the tradition of skilled politicans.


  4. Maria Garcia December 3, 2015 at 11:32 pm - Reply

    My comment never showed up but it knows I sent it because it pops up with a notification. Doom despair and agony on me.

    • Jane Akre December 9, 2015 at 1:09 pm - Reply

      Maria Garcia- Would you please contact me..I’d like to know your story! janeakre@meshnewsdesk. com

  5. Bev December 3, 2015 at 11:39 pm - Reply

    Add me to the list of people that Dr Raz has saved from the horrors of vaginal mesh.

    Went in with almost no issues in May, 2010. Came out immediately with pain, voiding problems both number 1 and 2, sharp stabbing pain down left leg, pain in lower back, pain during sex, almost non stop UTI’s, no longer able to work, depression, and more.

    The defense team should voluntarily have mesh installed to show the jury just how safe there gold standard really is.

    • Jane Akre December 3, 2015 at 11:51 pm - Reply

      Please post your photos of Dr. Raz with you if you will!

  6. Suzanne McClain December 3, 2015 at 11:56 pm - Reply

    The comments made by Mr. Adams and Ms. Cohen show precisely how ruthless defense attorneys can be when defending products made by the companies that pay their salary!

    I find Mr. Adams statement that Dr. Raz “made a 180* turnabout when he discovered he could make more money by removing it” particularly disturbing. It shows the lengths these attorney’s will go to, to disparage a world renowned surgeon. I thank you Jane for making the very valid point that Dr. Raz is on staff at UCLA, and that he is not in private practice where he could set his own rates for mesh removal, thereby increasing his salary. Dr. Raz was my full mesh removal surgeon, and he clearly stated to me that he stopped using mesh when he began seeing the damage that mesh was doing to a woman’s body.

    One could even turn Mr. Adams statement around to slap him in the face by stating that he became a defense attorney working on behalf of large corporations so that he could line his pockets with exorbitant amounts of money, while trampling over the backs of the injured. My sincere hope is that he chokes on his own words.

    As for Ms. Cohen, I would love to see a mesh sling implanted on her lips to keep the bunk from spewing from her mouth! For her to even suggest that the medical device industry is highly regulated by the FDA is ludicrous, and is only a small portion of the bunk that a lip sling could contain. In 2008, when I became injured by a transvaginal mesh product, I wrote to the FDA, and filed a complaint. Their response to me was:

    “————– Forwarded Message: ————–

    From: medwatchcomments@cder.fda.gov

    To: XXXXX@bellsouth.net

    Subject: Thank you for your submission

    Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:03:13 +0000

    Dear Reporter:

    Thank you for submitting your report to MedWatch, The FDA Safety Information and Adverse Event Reporting Program.

    This acknowledgement confirms that your report was received. Reports are added to a post marketing safety database with similar reports and reviewed by the FDA’s post marketing safety staff. Voluntary reports are essential for ensuring the continued safety of FDA-regulated products. One or two well-documented case reports may provide an early signal of unexpected problems and lead to additional evaluation. This may result in FDA regulatory actions that improve the safety of the products used in patient care each day.

    You might be contacted by an FDA staff member if additional information on your report is needed.

    Again, thank you for taking the time to submit your report.

    Sincerely yours,


    To date, there have been thousands upon thousands of adverse events reported to the FDA where transvaginal mesh is concerned, and I am certain that more than one or two of these reports have been well documented (I personally know that mine was) and yet the FDA allows these products to remain on the market. For Ms. Cohen to even suggest that the FDA highly regulates the medical device industry shows how out of touch with reality this woman truly is.

    Dr. Raz is a giant among men where mesh injured women are concerned, and though he says that the toxins from the mesh have invaded my organs,and that I will always have to live with mesh toxicity issues, I am better off than before he performed a full mesh removal for me. At least now I don’t feel like I am being poked and stabbed from the inside out.

    Mesh toxicity has left me with fibromyalgia, severe muscle and joint pain, skin rash issues, lesions on my scalp, and the list goes on… and still, I can say I am better off than before the mesh removal. So, a personal attack on Dr. Raz, is like a personal attack on me, and frankly, I think I have been through enough.

    How either one of these people sleep at night is beyond me, but I feel certain they will pay dearly for their misdeeds when they have to answer to our maker.

    • Jane Akre December 4, 2015 at 11:06 am - Reply

      The 180 turnabout is my paraphrasing of what was said….. it was like as soon as he discovered mesh removals were a good business, he went in that direction, as if he is motivated by the dollars.! He actually works for the University of California Los Angeles.

      • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 1:03 pm - Reply

        Thank you Jane. There is one thing we may need to clarify that I am not certain of. Often one is asked to sign a form at admission or somewhere in the process that states that we understand as patients that the doctor is NOT an employee of the hospital but rather an independent contractor. In the case of Dr. Raz I do not know if he works for the University or if he is an independent contractor. You may want to clarify…

        Love ya,


        • Jane Akre December 9, 2015 at 1:13 pm - Reply

          Good point.

  7. Stephanie Brad December 4, 2015 at 12:18 am - Reply

    this is crap

    Dr Raz gave me back my life and because of him I was able to have another baby no one else could do that for me. I still feel pain but not near what it was and a am not constantly fighting infection.

  8. Dawn December 4, 2015 at 12:26 am - Reply

    Dr. Raz is an amazing human being. An Angel walking amongst us.

    I saw this Dr. For my consultation. Flew from Illinois to California. I planned on using him to explant my mesh. Problem was this poor man was so busy with removals that I could get in for mine for 7 more months ! I chose his colleague to do my surgery removal.

    Here is why I love this man…. At 5:00 a.m. The morning after my surgery, Dr. Raz came into my room to check on me !! He was not even MY Dr. . That is how dedicated this man is …… To say he is making more money doing removals is ridiculous.

    My Dr. Implanted my mesh in 8 minutes time. Making around $11,000. It took over 2.5 hours to remove and scrape the mesh off my pelvic bones….. I highly doubt this removal gig is a money making jackpot !

    Just my thoughts.

    Defense better back off accusing Dr. Raz of being the one causing the harm. They will see women come out of the woodwork in his defense.

  9. karen December 4, 2015 at 4:10 am - Reply


    • Bejah Blue December 10, 2015 at 2:21 pm - Reply

      Because they can. $$$$$$

  10. kitty December 4, 2015 at 4:18 am - Reply

    Ï smell a Rat.

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 1:05 pm - Reply

      I hear Kittys are very good at smelling rats! 🙂


  11. Cepo December 4, 2015 at 6:19 am - Reply

    There is somethings is not clear: the patient was under surgery because a SUI stress urinary incontinence. First with a technical and then with another that is the gold standard for this issue, TVT. We suppose that she really have severe pain.Is a rare complication descript for this technic. So, must be under surgery for remove the mesh .And the incontinence? Is she ok about her incontinence? Or still is suffering that? Dr Raz remove the mesh and not perform a SUI surgery? Can this procedure be the cause of his actual pain? Or her pain is anterior to ALL the surgerys?

    • Suzanne December 4, 2015 at 11:33 am - Reply

      No, I don’t think any woman would be “okay about her incontinence” but Dr. Raz can and will go in at least three months after full removal surgery and repair a woman’s incontinence issue with facia (biological) materials. It is the way this problem was corrected in the century before mesh was ever developed. It is how repair surgeries should be done now, in light of all the problems that women are experiencing from mesh products, and any self-respecting surgeon who was not driven by greed would do the surgery the way it was done in the past, to minimize injury to his or her patients! Dr. Raz is a God send!!!

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 1:09 pm - Reply

      Cepo, May I ask what country you are a resident of as your English seems to reflect someone whose primary language is not English? May I also ask if you are a medical professional or an attorney? If you are an attorney please disclose the name of the firm you are with, and if you are a medical professional please share with us what your specialty is. Thank you.


  12. John December 4, 2015 at 6:35 am - Reply

    When you think about it, Dr Raz did contribute to plaintiffs’ injuries simply by touching her with a scalpel, this could not be avoided, she chose him based upon his experience and reputation to provide her relief. What could have been avoided was the initial horrific injury CAUSED by the implanting “physicians” who initiated the pain and suffering of their patient for the sole purpose of financial gain. Any physician who had researched the risks and benefits of transvaginal mesh thoroughly, and having been made aware of the very real complications that patients have, would not, (if they have a conscience) consider implanting it, unless driven by greed. The plaintiff / patient is the only one qualified to answer the question of whether or not the explant surgery performed by Dr. Raz provided relief.

    • kitty December 4, 2015 at 4:28 pm - Reply

      Very well stated John

  13. Stopmeshimplants December 4, 2015 at 6:37 am - Reply

    How bad must this defense team’s plan be if they have to go after one of the most sought after mesh removal surgeon’s in the world? I hope and pray that Dr. Raz gets on the stand to tell of the absolute horror he has seen and how often he helps women with pelvic complications from mesh. Let them get that man up there to share how he has saved countless women from lives of pain and suffering. I would love to see the jury’s faces when he politely explains he is booked six or seven months in advance for consultations and surgeries. Then they will know how many women seek his services and they will know how many of us are out there with major life changing pain issues from these products. I cannot imagine what it must be like for all the women who were implanted with two slings or mesh kits. I cringe at the thought of removals for more than one sling. I had one and it has changed my life forever. I will pray for Ms. Sherrer and her attorney’s for a successful trial and a postive verdict on behalf of Ms. Sherrer. Thank you for the excellent coverage Jane. Appreciate it more than you will ever know!

  14. kitty December 4, 2015 at 7:25 am - Reply

    OMG– this Dr has helped so many women. Isn’t coincidental that pulling pain at the iliac crest begins after some transvaginal implants and disturbs sleep and the ability to walk without spasms and limping?

  15. janet December 4, 2015 at 12:06 pm - Reply

    Really makes me wonder how much money these attorneys working for the other side is paying off people

    Face it ladies it’s not good for us at all

    Women will keep on being butchered by these devices

    We will never see a fair judgements

  16. ed December 4, 2015 at 12:20 pm - Reply

    I just received my settlement letter, and they offered me $10,000.00 for all of my pain and suffering, surgery after surgery, and this doesn’t include any attorney fees. How in the world can I get by in life with all of this pain. It’s a slap in the face is what it is. The attorney gets well over $3,000,000.00 and I get nothing. Any thoughts ?

    • Janet December 4, 2015 at 9:12 pm - Reply

      Turn it down

      Fight for what they did to you

      Stand yiy r ground

    • Samantha December 7, 2015 at 4:52 pm - Reply

      If you have had “surgeries after surgeries” you might want the attorneys to review your case again. Something doesn’t seem right.

    • Still Standing December 8, 2015 at 12:20 am - Reply

      How does the attorney get three million if you were offered only ten thousand?

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 1:16 pm - Reply

      Shocking…it illustrates the true nature of the evil we are dealing with. I want you to turn it down for the sake of us all, I want you to turn it down because it is such a small amount it will do little to help you anyway, and I want you to turn it down as a symbolic gesture and I want you to turn it down, most of all, because you deserve at least $1,000,000 if not ten times that. Thanks for asking Ed, sending you a big hug…so deeply sorry. Stay strong, have faith.


  17. anna December 4, 2015 at 1:11 pm - Reply

    The defense said it clearly,WOMEN TROUBLING PELVIC MESH, AND COMPLICATIONS all caused by a mesh which they manufactured. That explains, the reason why women need more doctors like doctor Raz. Women could use the money this defense lawyers are getting, to treat their complications from this desasterous products. Don’t this court system see how much they need to put pressure on this companies. Their more than 100 thousand women with the same symptoms. How could that many women imaging their complications? The system is procrastinating for the sake of the high and mighty corporations. They are allowing this monsters to go on destroying women. Please Judges think of your own mothers, daughters, and granddaughters.

  18. Mary Pat December 4, 2015 at 1:59 pm - Reply

    When you have mesh in your body, your body becomes a torture chamber. You are entrapped in the torture chamber and enslaved by the mesh caused injuries and pain. If you have studied the book of Exodus or watched the movie, Ten Commandments, you know how Moses was chosen by God to free the slaves. Moses did not enslave the Hebrews, he led them out of slavery by the guidance and power of God. Like Moses, Dr. Raz is freeing women from being enslaved by mesh. Did Dr. Raz enslave them? NO, he did not. I believe Dr. Raz has been specially chosen by God to free women from mesh enslavement. I suggest that everyone study the plagues in Egypt to see what God did to the enslavers. It will strengthen your faith. Know that God is your deliverer. God will avenge you. The defendants in this case are coming against the power of God Almighty. They should read Exodus and take heed!

    Dr. Raz, thank you for your obedience to God. Thank you for the good and faithful work you do to free women from mesh enslavement. Thank you for having the courage and decency to stand in truth and justice. I’ve not met you but I have heard that you also walk in humility. I pray that God will strengthen you and guide you in your work. I ask God to strike down those who come against you with their slander and lies. In Jesus name, I pray. Amen.

    Jane – as always, thank you for your good and faithful work! You are doing the work of God, too. Bless you! You will never know how much you have blessed us!

  19. Mary Pat December 4, 2015 at 2:24 pm - Reply

    Read this verse and think about the good work that Dr Raz and Jane Akre are doing:

    Micah 6:8

    He has shown you, O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.

    Now read this Psalm (its long but well worth reading) and think about the work that Ms. Cohen and the defendants are doing. They are coming against God Almighty. Everyone, do not lose heart. PRAY that our God will avenge the mesh injured in this case and in every case. PRAY!

    Psalm 35

    Of David.

    1 Contend, Lord, with those who contend with me;

    fight against those who fight against me.

    2 Take up shield and armor;

    arise and come to my aid.

    3 Brandish spear and javelin[a]

    against those who pursue me.

    Say to me,

    “I am your salvation.”

    4 May those who seek my life

    be disgraced and put to shame;

    may those who plot my ruin

    be turned back in dismay.

    5 May they be like chaff before the wind,

    with the angel of the Lord driving them away;

    6 may their path be dark and slippery,

    with the angel of the Lord pursuing them.

    7 Since they hid their net for me without cause

    and without cause dug a pit for me,

    8 may ruin overtake them by surprise—

    may the net they hid entangle them,

    may they fall into the pit, to their ruin.

    9 Then my soul will rejoice in the Lord

    and delight in his salvation.

    10 My whole being will exclaim,

    “Who is like you, Lord?

    You rescue the poor from those too strong for them,

    the poor and needy from those who rob them.”

    11 Ruthless witnesses come forward;

    they question me on things I know nothing about.

    12 They repay me evil for good

    and leave me like one bereaved.

    13 Yet when they were ill, I put on sackcloth

    and humbled myself with fasting.

    When my prayers returned to me unanswered,

    14 I went about mourning

    as though for my friend or brother.

    I bowed my head in grief

    as though weeping for my mother.

    15 But when I stumbled, they gathered in glee;

    assailants gathered against me without my knowledge.

    They slandered me without ceasing.

    16 Like the ungodly they maliciously mocked;[b]

    they gnashed their teeth at me.

    17 How long, Lord, will you look on?

    Rescue me from their ravages,

    my precious life from these lions.

    18 I will give you thanks in the great assembly;

    among the throngs I will praise you.

    19 Do not let those gloat over me

    who are my enemies without cause;

    do not let those who hate me without reason

    maliciously wink the eye.

    20 They do not speak peaceably,

    but devise false accusations

    against those who live quietly in the land.

    21 They sneer at me and say, “Aha! Aha!

    With our own eyes we have seen it.”

    22 Lord, you have seen this; do not be silent.

    Do not be far from me, Lord.

    23 Awake, and rise to my defense!

    Contend for me, my God and Lord.

    24 Vindicate me in your righteousness, Lord my God;

    do not let them gloat over me.

    25 Do not let them think, “Aha, just what we wanted!”

    or say, “We have swallowed him up.”

    26 May all who gloat over my distress

    be put to shame and confusion;

    may all who exalt themselves over me

    be clothed with shame and disgrace.

    27 May those who delight in my vindication

    shout for joy and gladness;

    may they always say, “The Lord be exalted,

    who delights in the well-being of his servant.”

    28 My tongue will proclaim your righteousness,

    your praises all day long.

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 1:34 pm - Reply

      Mary, Wow…thank you for this. I just read it aloud and I will be reading it again. Many say the poetry that is the writing in the Bible is the most beautiful mankind has created. It is interesting that many contributed to these books over time yet there is a cohesiveness that is sort or spooky in a very beautiful way. I think there is a message in that…we come together or we can in our writings, in our words, in our hearts and that is just one of the other levels of messaging in the Bible for us to try to understand. Again, Mary thank you for sharing this with us. I encourage all of us to treat this prayer as a meditation, to go to a quiet place, light a candle in a quiet room and read it, and if you can read it aloud and you will feel how much more powerful it is when read aloud. You do not need to be a person of faith to do this. The FATHER loves you all, welcomes you all. He may have inspired Mary to share this with us now. Blessings,


      • Janet December 9, 2015 at 3:27 pm - Reply


        Why wasn’t this stuff completely off the market

        The proof of Boston scientific had this mesh are something like it on the market in the late 90’s was under a total different name.. they settled almost 800 cases of all the same injuries

        In 2003..and then placed another back on the market clearly this stuff is very dangerous, but why was it allowed

        Dies the jury’s understand that this has happened before with the mesh. Same injuries

        This should be able to be proof that the product is not made to be placed in the vaginal wall are any place else.

        If I would have known I would have never

        But my doctor stated was a new procedure

        I now ask all questions ,

        Will be going in for more surgery hoping the last

        This should never happen again

        • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 5:55 pm - Reply

          Dear Janet, I am not sure I knew of this or I do not remember but I do recall that Johnson & Johnson was the lead in developing this “product concept” and others soon followed, and there was one corporation in particular that was in the initial product release and maybe that was Boston Scientific.

          Janet, You know we see this “New and Improved” ploy all the time everywhere, most obvious in the grocery and drug stores. It is a standard method corporations use to ensure a continum of sales despite issues with their product. You ask rhetorically whey they get away with it but you know the answer dear, MONEY.

          Our problem with these products is that in the past, up until now, we have believed, we have trusted our doctors. I think it is safe to say we no longer trust doctors. We no longer hold them in the high regard we once did. It was a sacred trust. Now it is dead in the street and I expect most of us will NEVER trust doctors, never see them in the same light, again. But it is not just in medicine that this fracturing of faith is happening. It is as if the very earth is tilting off its axis, as if the poles are reversing as in a sci fi film, it as if the end of the world looms before us. I no longer feel safe in the world and it is not just because the urogynecological brutality.

          Tuesday I went to my first Yoga class. I loved it but it was very, very hard, and I realized how terribly out of condition I am. I did the positions as best I could, not pushing into pain but coming up to the edge of pain. It was exhausting, a lot of work but I felt really good at the same time, must be those adorable little endorphins which I picture as little forest fairies. The “Silver Sneakers” thing was awful….not for me, maybe OK for really old people who like goofy country western music…it looked like something they would do at a rest home. Instead I went out and rode the recombenent bike (sp.?) for about 15 minutes then left. The thing is this afternoon I am having more pain in my lower pelvis and now I am terrified I hurt myself. I visualize the mesh as being as fragile as a bone china tea cup and if I do anything too strenuous it will shatter and kill me. This is my irrational fear but maybe the thick adhesions around it hold it in place and keep it from breaking apart. Is that possible? Could the adhesive material (What is it made of organically, BTW?) actually tries to protect the body, sort of like T-Cells but in a different way, from foreign objects and so helps to prevent the dispersal of toxins from the polypropelene as it breaks down? Could that be possible? When one of us passes away we should perhaps donate our bodies to a medical center we trust and agree on (I vote for Harvard for consideration because they have the freedom to be free from defandant funding) and have, for example, the adhesion fabric analyzed, if that makes sense, to see what it may tell us. I think the defendant corporations would love to get their claws on our bodies for dissection. Let’s make sure that does not happen. This means denying access to NIH, CDC, all of them. It may not be very plesant to think about but we must keep our bodies out of the hands of those who are responsible for this. If you have a card donating your body to science you must PLEASE change it so that it either specifies who has access (And sometimes the bodies are sold, even to foreign nations, BTW) or it should say what entity is NOT allowed access to the body. Please make sure to do this. You now know, for example, that the defendants use cadavers to study how to do their wham bam thank you ma’am implant of their devices. Do you want that to happen to your body? They claim it is for the good of medical science…much of the time it is for their own nefarious purposes…to refine ways to essentially make more money. Please think about this.


  20. Still Standing December 4, 2015 at 3:43 pm - Reply

    Women, please understand that Ms. Cohen is doing her job. It could be very possible that she does not hold the same belief about the products as those she represents. Many attorneys represent those in trials that they dont completely believe. Try to look at what she does in court as her job, nothing else. The defendant has the legal right to pose questions and put doubt into the minds of the jurors. She is not lodging personal assaults at the victims and we should not be hurling nasty comments at her. It demeans all of us.

    • Jane Akre December 4, 2015 at 4:38 pm - Reply

      True. Everyone is allowed their day in court. Even corporations.

    • Mary Pat December 4, 2015 at 4:45 pm - Reply

      Still standing, Really? “Ms. Cohen is just doing her job?” And the guards who ushered people into gas chambers, eere they just doing their jobs, too? Since when does “just doing a job” make it ok to do immoral things?

      • Still Standing December 8, 2015 at 12:51 am - Reply

        Yourr comment comparing women who CHOSE to have a surgery to have less discomfort from incontinence or prolapse…neither of which are considered medical emergencies…to the millions and millions of innocent people , including babies and children , who had no choice, no ability to legally fight for their life in a court of law, no ability to sue someone for financial damages, is an insult to those of the Jewish faith and well, to anyone else in the world who has a conscience. It may be the most distasteful post I have seen on this site and their have been some doozies.

        As far as the “immorality” of the defense attorneys, they are required to follow the letter of the law and they have the right to take any case they want. Tell me, how many of OJ Simpson’s defense team actually thought he was NOT GUILTY? I doubt any of them, yet they presented a better defense and he walked. Did you equate any of them to the Nazis ? It is absolutely beyond thought that you would compare Ms. Cohen to the Nazis herding innocent people to horrendous death. Oh, and before you declare me an evil person, note that I have had eight major surgeries over the past seven years , the last one two months ago where half of my vagina had to be removed, and still have it embedded in my rectum, all as results of transvaginal mesh, so believe me I have walked in your shoes as well. I have just decided to not drag them through the mud. We as a group can and should be better than that.

        • Mary Pat December 8, 2015 at 1:11 pm - Reply

          Still standing – Like the gas chamber victims, I did not choose to have mesh nor did many of the women who are living in their own personal mesh caused torture chambers. I was ushered into surgery by a doctor who I trusted to fix a problem. He did not tell me he was implanting mesh. I was victimized by my doctor and he was victimized by the pharmaceutical companies who chose to hide the truth about mesh. True, I am not dead, although some days I believe the gas chamber victims had a more merciful death than the slow, torturous death that mesh causes. Imorality is imorality. Torture is torture. Prison is prison. Pain is pain. Who are you to decide if one person’s suffering is worse than another? Attorneys, or anyone (even mesh injured critical bloggers) who defend imorality, torture and victimizaton of any kind make this world a tragic and unfortunate place to live. Before you make all knowing, sweeping statements, such as, “women chose to have surgery” I suggest you read all of the comments so you will see, many of us didn’t choose this nightmare we are living any more than the gas chamber victims chose theirs. Were Nazis immoral? Yes. Are the pharmaceutical companies and those that defend them immoral? Yes. That was my point.

          • Still Standing December 8, 2015 at 3:28 pm

            I’m literally speechless that you continue to equate mesh injuries to the gas chambers. Were all of your children, husband, parents and all other relatives lined up and implanted with mesh? Were you just randomly yanked off the street and implanted with mesh for no reason? If you did not sign a verification and permission of the surgical procedure you should most certainly have many legal avenues for financial compensation.

            Now, on your defining me as a ” mesh injured critical blogger”, it has been said that those who sling mud always loose ground. I have not veered for one moment from trying to encourage mesh women to develop a strong mindset about dealing with their pain. As a pain researcher and pain management teacher, it frankly isnt the case that “pain is pain”. There are many unique variables that impact how an individual experiences pain. I in no way want to diminish your very real pain. I get it. I have my own. But, this post in particular has devolved into a very negative and angry narrative that is not in the best interest of women who come here seeking hope. I dont believe at all that Jane’s reporting on this trial should be shut down, but I can certainly understand where the defense is coming from. Lets honor Jane’s efforts to provide a forum for mesh injured women by not attacking each other, the government, and the entire defense team. It does nothing in the effort to positively resolve this case in particular or any others, rather by trial or settlement in the future.

          • Jane Akre December 8, 2015 at 3:32 pm

            Agreed…. attacks … stop please. Respect opinions that differ from yours. I will try to better monitor, though I do not like to edit comments, as you know. I may instead trash them so please keep it civil. Everyone needs to feel they are free to speak here, as long as they are civil. It is understandable that emotions run high, but your fellow mesh survivors are not to blame for your mesh implant- If anything, these trials reveal what a company knew and when it knew it… well before you were implanted.

          • Mary Pat December 8, 2015 at 3:48 pm

            I agree that this site is not a venue for angry exchanges. I was not engaging in an angry exchange, I simply attempted to explain my reasoning. I have my opinions. You have yours. I don’t believe it is your place to judge me or anyone else who posts on this site. Please allow everyone freedom of speech, respectfully!

          • Andrea December 8, 2015 at 4:40 pm

            I didn’t know I was getting mesh either. I thought I was having my bladder lifted. The doctor that did mine was new at the time and told me I was his first sling. This was after several visits because I wasn’t healing properly.

          • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 6:16 pm

            I think that what Mary is trying to convey is that Ms Cohen could have chosen a different law firm to work for, one specializing in a different area of the law, or she could have declined to work on this case but for whatever reason did not; this subjecting herself to criticism.

            This is a highly charged emotional issue at its core for all of us and here we see it exaggerated greatly, even to the extent of using highly inappropriate analogies in a desperate attempt to convey the level of pain. Mary was not able to use a different analogy and there is no value in exploring that but that is her journey, her imagery, her symbolism, and the bottom line is that it is a scream in the darkness.

            Please let it go. It does not correspond with your understanding of those historical facts for reasons that do not matter because Mary is in a place beyond reason, where nothing can impact the emotional responses of the old brain and its primitive power. Your clear emotional response is tempered by highly refined reason.

            There are battles you can not win, arguments you can not effectively counter with the tools of reason. All of this tells us more of the powerful emotion generated by the living HELL of this issue.

            What we must always remember is that the adversary is watching, looking, like Satan by whatever name you know that psychological energy, for any weakness it can exploit. We must present a united front.



  21. Cathy December 4, 2015 at 4:35 pm - Reply

    I tell you what is ludicrous is that crap flying out of Ms. Cohen’s mouth.

  22. Cathy December 4, 2015 at 4:41 pm - Reply

    Thank you Mary Pat for that post. I think we all needed that.

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 6:17 pm - Reply

      I think Cathy is referring to the beautiful quote from the Bible.


      • cathy December 11, 2015 at 8:49 am - Reply

        Bejah Blue, I was referring to Psalms 35 that Mary Pat posted. A very powerful prayer we should all be praying. I personally feel there is nothing left that I can do other than turn this injustice over to God.

        • Bejah Blue December 13, 2015 at 12:21 pm - Reply

          Cathy, Let’s pray for those who are not able to do that.


  23. Gwen Block December 4, 2015 at 4:44 pm - Reply

    Attorneys always attack expert witnesses and physicians, even if he’s not testifying as an expert witness but as removal physician. If he spoke for the other side, he would be attacked by the opposite team.

  24. toni December 4, 2015 at 5:12 pm - Reply

    We all deserve our day in court but the majority of us will never be lucky enougj to get it.. we are the ones ssuffering and we are the ones who will lose even if we win. everyone seems to be making money off this mesh but us who have been mamed by this horrible product. throughly tested through fda lol they need to do thier homework the plainiths attourney needs to jump all over these lawyers its almost like they opened it up for us. dr raz had better take the stand it would help alot. run with thier offence turn it on them and fda.

  25. mary December 4, 2015 at 5:40 pm - Reply

    I hate that DR Raz had to be put in that procession also Eve hope her trial comes out and she gets what she deserve as for us playing the waiting game and the lady that was offered 10.000 dollars that was a terrible call i hope she denied it where was her lawyer from it seems someone is playing on both sides of the game would like to know her lawyer. mary

  26. Bejah Blue December 6, 2015 at 1:28 am - Reply

    “Oh my ears and whiskers”, this “soup” has a LOT of curiosities in it. So people, just when you thought there were a few things you knew for sure…the plot thickens again. Feel like you are looking at the world upside down ever? All I can say is, hot kaka!

    Bejah (Here we go down the rabbit hole yet again)

    • kitty December 8, 2015 at 1:16 am - Reply

      Bejah — I have not forgot your previous remarks of UCLA. This is an institution that is built on integrity.

      • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 6:21 pm - Reply

        Kitty, Don’t tell me you were quoting me please! Gasp. What was the context. You did not put it in quotes so that means you were not quoting me, right? Anyway, if you were I do have an answer that you will appreciate. Let me know….


  27. Traci Rizzo December 7, 2015 at 3:20 pm - Reply

    Hmm interesting Dr Raz did a 180 for money lol. I don’t believe anyone with a brain believes that. Now due to the conflict of interest that exists with your “professional sponsors” you aren’t in fact in a position to tell women of those that have done just that as well as mingle very closely with manufacturers. Imagine the suffering that could be avoided if only you were impartial.

    • Jane Akre December 7, 2015 at 5:37 pm - Reply

      Traci R Please be respectful. This website does not pay the bills, never has. Sponsors help AND they are good folks. No conflict. I don’t really understand your point in that its a bit convoluted. I have a story in production about what is happening with the court. Defense does not like comments on MND. That’s too bad. You all have opinions and as long as they are respectful and civil (you too Traci) they are allowed by me. Defense went to the judge to have this reporting stopped. They had no problem with the reporting, just the comments apparently. Please, this is a reminder to be civil. I’m seeking legal help to represent you’all and MND in court before this judge so reporting can continue. We have done nothing wrong.

      • jade December 7, 2015 at 6:28 pm - Reply

        Our comments on this blog DO NOT affect the Jurors or Trials in any way. We do have Freedom of Speech in this GREAT Country! These MANUFACTURERS performed criminal acts by “experimenting” on non-consenting human beings by implanting mesh! We victims have suffered enormous PROVEN losses (financial, physical, emotion, …) at their unthinkable acts and those of their PAID doctors. And, many of those doctors are just as quilty of criminal intent and Crimes Against Humanity by not revealing the dangers of these kits to their patients prior to implantation. All we ALL wanted was to be “whole” again. To have our insides work again – and those PAID doctors promised us a “perfect” fix without revealing the horrible and REAL risks of unimaginable complications. So SORRY for YOU, Boston Scienitific, CR Bard – you want to “spin” the TRUTH because you and your representatives just “CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH”! Keep the light on.

        • Bejah Blue December 10, 2015 at 9:38 pm - Reply

          Jade, I remember celebrating freedom of speech but I have learned that it is not that simple. Pretend that you live in a box, a huge box and within that box which may be thousands of miles wide and tall, you have freedom of speech. The thing is Jade, that if you ever push on the walls of that box with your excercizing of your right of freedom of expression or anything else, you will be shocked to find that freedom of speech is not what you thought it was. If the state does not like what you say and you have the capacity to command a broad audience, and influence others, you will feel the walls limiting that beloved freedom of speech. We must guard our Democracy and protect it because it may be becoming a Fascist state, In a marriage or a family we must work too keep our social and cultural organizations healthy. They do not run on auto pilot. We must vote. We must participate. We must prevent corporations like Johnson & Johnson from attaining the kind of power they have because with power and wealth you have the capacity to control nations and regions and economies worldwide. This issue is of course about this polypropelene that was implanted in the human body when it never should have been allowed. Why was it allowed and why does it continue to be allowed. Because we have not been watching our government, our nation and now these corporations have too much power and influence. It would appear we do not have a government that is strong enough, or independent enough to address the criminal misdeeds that have allowed the problem to become this serious. The thing that still makes this nation great is its people but they are being done a grave disservice and circumstances like those we live with now have led to revolution many times in human history and it can happen again. Today we have external pressure from terrorists and rogue nations such as North Korea and Syria, but we also have internal pressures and one of them is a resurgence of racism, not caused by any political candidate but by the complexities our society faces like the washing away of the middle class, the death of the American dream for most people, the crumbling infrastructure of our nation, the shameful condition of our education system, and so on. The brutalization of women by corporate medicine is an apt symbol of the state of the Union in our time.


      • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 6:39 pm - Reply

        Bless your ears and whiskers Jane….and let us take heed of her words and find our inner wisdom and let it guide us.

        With regard to the defendants troubles, I do hope your headaches subside Alex (It may be blood pressure). I find a glass of warm milk and reruns of “House” help put me back to sleep. Not sure what to do about those pesky nightmares though. Someone told me one must confer with their subconscious regarding those. You might donate a cow to a family in Africa through HEIFER to help them sustain their family and stabilize their village. Good deeds help one rest I understand. Or you might do what my son and his wife do and volunteer at a soup kitchen serving Christmas dinner to the homeless. Of course, if one’s sins are great I am not sure what to advise. The important thing to remember is that the Universe seeks balance, not chaos. Just look at the organization of the cosmos, the galaxies…within these great structures there is chaos but it is defined, controlled. If something happens in one corner of a solar system, it is balanced by an equal or greater action…this refers back to a Newtonian law I believe. To bring things down to earth, if one harms another something will happen in that person’s life to balance that action. We may not be aware of it for a time but rather feel a disease, a sense of something vaguely troubling, disquieting. You may experience such feelings. It is best to not repress them as they can become rather monstrous. Seeking counselling from a good therapist is best and it is not necessarily true that a Ph.D. can be more knowledgeable than a one with Masters level training. In fact, some Ph.D.’s are quite troubled themselves. All of this is said in truth but truly there is only one way for you to address any disease you are experiencing and that is to make amends, to do the right thing. Your “little voice” will tell you the truth about this. If you feel no illness, and have no remorse then I fear your soul is lost to the darkness and there is no hope for you. I will pray for you Alex, I still can not forgive you but I can pray for you for the sake of my people.


    • Tammy Ky December 8, 2015 at 6:47 am - Reply

      Traci, when I first started looking for answers to my Mesh problem, there wasn’t anyone talking about Mesh. No FB pages, no blogs. Jane is the first to reach out start MDND. I don’t care were she gets money. She uses her God given talent to help us WOMEN. If you don’t care for Jane or her reporting, WHY are you READING HER site? We need help and answers…slamming her ISNT helping. I don’t understand you….Jane…thank you again for ALL you do….be blessed My MESH SISTERS…MAM Rally April 11 2016, Charleston WV, I will see you there Jane…..Ladies NO MORE MESH. …..let’s use our voices to HELP NOT HURT, the pple helping us…..have you sent money to help Jane, Traci?

      • K December 8, 2015 at 10:15 pm - Reply

        I agree with everything you said. Traci, why do you read this site? We ALL appreciate Janes work and you wouldn’t have a clue what was going on with this site!

      • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 6:51 pm - Reply

        Hi Tammy, Don’t you find that Satan goes after the most innocent, the most vulnerable, and also those that try to help them….the advocates, the advisors, those who speak the truth, those that, to borrow a phrase from LINK TV, speak truth to power without reservations or fear of reprisal? Jane is a target and will be so long as she strives to help us, to give us a voice, to gives our eyes something to see, our minds the information we need to make informed choices, and hopefully to organize and take action in more powerful ways in the coming months and years. We must be very careful, choose our words well, and despite our rage refrain from reducing our responses to bar room rhetoric, and undignified, disrespectful language that does not represent us well, and does a profound disservice to Jane. We must be above such gross responses, we must be our best selves. If we need to rage we can go in our rooms and close the door and scream and swear but not here. Here we must choose our words with care and demonstrate control and intent in meaningful ways. That is what will un-nerve the adversary, not swearing and street talk. “May the force be with you”.


        • Jane Akre December 9, 2015 at 10:49 pm - Reply

          Thank you Bejah and yes, it makes my job easier if I don’t have to edit comments. I don’t like to do that. On the other hands, you’all have been told for too long to be compliant and agreeable. I’m not at all surprised that people want to speak out and loudly. BTW- Can anyone sit in the Kansas City courtroom (quietly not loudly). That would be a tremendous help.

  28. Deb J December 7, 2015 at 3:34 pm - Reply

    Another day, another round of corporations trying to say we are making up medical problems from TV mesh just to make money…….I’ve had 2 surgeries (both defective devices) and in the last 6 months more pain than ever, 2 bladder infections, so-called bursitis, no sleep, total dependence on nearby restrooms or protective garments…and, to top it off, another new dr that doesn’t believe my problems have anything to do with BSC mesh implanted October 2014…I am beyond tired, exhausted, frustrated, fighting depression and negativity….trying not to complain to my family. I wish there were a magic “shot” like Scottie gave Captain Kirk or anyone else on Star Trek that needed healing…This has been my life since 2008 and this roller coaster doesn’t stop, just careens from pain to pain….since joining this blog I have come to depend on everyone’s statements/questions/concerns…..it does help to know there are others that understand my pain. I wonder, do the judges have empathy with our situation or are they trying to find a way for manufacturers to stay profitable?

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 7:01 pm - Reply

      Deb, I am so sorry about what you have been through. “Misery loves company” is a true statement, isn’t it, but in a good way, not as it sounds….somehow we are comforted by others who experience the same things in addition to often getting helpful information. I am glad the membership of this forum has been helpful to you. I am sure that makes us all happy. I need to ask for your advice. About a year ago, after experiencing increasing periods where I was limping and had to use a cane, I finally went to an orthopedist who told me I had Bursitis in my right hip. Sometimes it seems like it is inflamed and hurts more, other times it seems “calm”. I can not really sleep on that side. Is there anything you would recommend or can tell me based on your experience that may help? Also how do we know that we will not develop it in the other hip also and how do we know it will not worsen? Could the mesh be a cause of this and if so how? I know others in our community have Bursitis also and I am guessing all instances happened after implant like mine so your comments could help many others in a world where doctors do not seem interested in spending much time talking to their patients (what could they say in their allowed 15 minuted anyway).

      Thanks Deb,


  29. jacqui scott December 7, 2015 at 11:23 pm - Reply

    i cant belive that the lawyers are blaming dr raz i for one am very grateful to this man he saved my life the mesh had eroded onto my bowels i was passing out on my toilet floor because the mesh had eroded so badly in my body if it was not for this man/dr i would now be dead but im sure the truth will come out in the end and the mesh makers will has to except accountability

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 7:03 pm - Reply

      Nice to hear from you Jacqui, I remember you and your story from when I first found this site. You sound so much better, stronger. Good to know there are some relatively happy endings. We do not seem to hear from our sisters overseas much, not sure why.


  30. Deb December 8, 2015 at 1:29 am - Reply

    Trying to put this woman’s problems on Dr. Raz and her removal surgery, rather than the mesh itself – is ridiculous. I CAN’T believe she did NOT have major problems from the mesh, BEFORE her removal surgery.

    I mean, seriously, who would go through the long process of waiting & tests for surgery, and often traveling long distances to a specialist like Dr Raz, and then go through the actual major surgery itself for mesh removal – if they were not already having major issues??? Usually, by the time women wind up on Dr. Raz’s doorstep – they are already having an onslaught of problems from the mesh, and most have had partial removals, and have seen a myriad of other doctors, and they are only getting worse. They are desperate for help… and THAT is why they are there. Dr. Raz tries to help them, and HAS helped so many. Sadly, some of some damages from mesh are not “fixable”. Many suffer ongoing our permanent complications. Still, most I’ve talked to, thought they were much better off after mesh removal with Dr. Raz (or one I’d the other few specialists doing “full” removals), than they were before. If that wasn’t the case, there wouldn’t be women literally lining up & waiting months to get in to see Dr. Rsz. To start blaming Dr. Raz, or any of the few doctors that are actually helping so many with mesh complications, is just so wrong.

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 2:01 pm - Reply

      Historically, and I have probably said this before, the military of an attacking nation would first strike at the heart of the nation being attacked. They would do this by destroying its cathedrals, temples, or important cultural icons along with important defense facilities. This attack on Dr. Raz, assuming what all of you believe to be his truth, may be an example of this. The defendant corporations could strike a powerful blow at us by discrediting Dr. Raz, it would be a strike at the heart of our collective posture as victims of this petroleum bi product that was illegally formed into a product the manufacturer of the raw material warned should NEVER be put in the human body (Some things bear repeating)…a product that countless doctors, medical centers, and defendant corporations have already made billions selling. In their cost benefit analyses they computed the costs they would incur in defending themselves and weighed that against the probably profit and then moved forward with their business plan to increase profitability. This, to say it yet again in perhaps a different way, is war. That is why they are attacking Dr. Raz. You better all hope his credibility holds up.


  31. Mary Pat December 8, 2015 at 2:17 am - Reply

    Jane – are you still getting the live feed or did they cut you off?

    • Jane Akre December 8, 2015 at 8:30 am - Reply

      I was cut off. Comments that appear here are no different than those that appear on a newspaper website or a tv station. I’m still trying to have someone advocate for MND and its readers before the judge. I’m sorry. I did not see any offending comments, except for one, about putting mesh on the defense team, which I edited out.

      It is a violation of the Administrative Rule 16 but unless you have paid a lawyer to represent you, you are out of luck. Courts are supposed to provide a level playing field for the average citizen. This is a good example of how that is not true.

      • jade December 8, 2015 at 10:17 am - Reply

        Jane – Being blocked from the CVN live feed makes no sense. There’s MORE to it than just reporting! And, I, as Kitty, smell a BIG “rat”! If anyone wanted to sit in on the trial in Kentucky, they’d be allowed to and be allowed to speak of the proceedings, correct? You didn’t report anything that wasn’t true. And, the comment about implanting the Defense team with mesh has been made several times over the years. So, that ONE particular edited comment cannot be the REAL reason for being cut off from a live feed. The Defense has MILLIONS, if not BILLIONS, of dollars to “fabricate” (and I do mean “fabricate”) their “story” – to spin the truth and blame the victim. We, the Victims, only have our voices and our voices should NOT be silenced! BSC and CR Bard, J&J, and all the others fear the TRUTH will be heard. Victims don’t have the resources of these MANUFACTURERS which allows them to stand up before GOD and COUNTRY to LIE and COVER UP what they knowingly did to American Woman! The pain and suffering they’ve inflicted on their “Mothers, Sisters, Daughters, Granddaughters” is UNspeakable and REAL and was PREMEDITATED! Victims do not want harm to come to ANYone. We need to be fairly and honestly compensated by these manufacturers and for them to STOP attacking us again and again!

        “”Is not he a true philosopher who,

        though he be unrecognized, cherishes no resentment?

        What you do not wish done to yourself,

        do not do to others.” – Confucius

        • Jane Akre December 8, 2015 at 11:03 am - Reply

          I Agree it makes no sense. Sometimes those with the deeper pockets have a louder voice. So much for level playing field and access for all to the courthouse door! Those who went to law school should understand that!

          The case is Sherrer v. Truman Medical Case No is 1216-CV27879

          Go to courts.mo.gov/ click on case.net/ Go to case number search and put in the case number, hit Find/ then click on blue case number/ click on docket entries. You can see the experts who will appear in this trial. Please be patient. still working on access.

          • Mary Pat December 8, 2015 at 1:54 pm

            Jane – would it help if we all contact our local ACLU legal departments?

          • Jane Akre December 8, 2015 at 2:24 pm

            No just standby for now, working on it, but thank you……

        • Janet December 8, 2015 at 11:21 am - Reply


          What has happened to the women that were previously injured with mesh from Boston scientific They settled those lawsuits in 2003.

          This surely shows the mesh is very defective I wish I would have known all of t his before my hysterectomy in 06

          • Jane Akre December 8, 2015 at 2:27 pm

            I wish this was front page news too so women could be informed. It is not, though I notice some media coverage of the trial underway in Philadelphia. Yeah! That’s one of the reasons I continue with this site….. too little information making it from inside law firms to the public. I believe it’s important.

        • Tammy (KY) December 8, 2015 at 12:29 pm - Reply

          Jade, are you in KY? I live in KY. We have a group of MESH SISTERS whom meet and support each other. If you are in KY give me a call. 859-421-3998. I live about 20 miles from Lexington….. Be blessed Mesh Sisters.

          • jade December 8, 2015 at 9:07 pm

            Tammy – No, I am not in KY, but thanks for asking. Are any of you attending the trial? Jane being banned from the live feed is just not right. I would assume she is working on legal recourse. And, I would assume there are local reporters in the courtroom assigned to the trial????

      • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 8:15 pm - Reply

        OK so can we have an attorney who is a friend represent you as a representative of the plaintiff population (I know I am reaching) who has a vested interest in, and a right to access to information that may come up in the courtroom, information that could have a critical impact on those you represent.

        Why can we not challenge the ruling (was is #16) that you mention. How can we get that modified or overturned? Who put that into place? Was it voted on by the people or is this another example of something that was created by the courts or elsewhere in the back rooms of the DOJ?

        We want to read this item #16. Where can we read and discuss it in private chat rooms?

        Shutting you out on the pretext that closed doors create a fair field of play is unbelievable. People do you not see that we are treated like fools, the citizens of this nation are regarded as idiots. Who knows, maybe we are deliberately dumbed down in schools, in computer games, in network TV programs….consider the potential for manipulation by the boys from “the Grove”.

        Finally, I thought that the public was always allowed to fill open seats in any courtroom unless there were rare closed courtrooms for specific circumstances, perhaps a murder trial, Please correct me if I am wrong. If I am not wrong why was Jane cut off? Was all media cut off? Who was allowed access?


      • Bejah Blue December 13, 2015 at 12:30 pm - Reply

        Jane, You must go to someone to help…Civil Liberties Union, DOJ, a friendly law firm that will do it pro bono or….I am guessing that this kind of thing is not foreign to you so praying you find appropriate representation to address this very serious matter…it seems like an attack on our Constitutional rights, probably by those who want to do away with the Constitution, claiming it is archaic and no longer relevant.


  32. toni December 8, 2015 at 11:00 am - Reply

    the courts seem to protect everyones rights but the victims .this country seems to need reform from the bottom up. our government is supposed to protect us but guess its about money to. if our government would get involved this travesty wonot be happening along with numerous other things big corp are getting away with. trump may be a glimmer of hope at least he doesn’t cower down he says it like it is.

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 8:37 pm - Reply

      Toni, Thank you for bringing this up. I have been a liberal, a tree hugger, an environmentalist, and pretty non conservative on most issues all my life. I have been resistant to being forced into two party choices. At times I have registered Independent. This is another system that is totally corrupt. The district allocations are one example of this corruption. I am sick of it, sick of so much. I have traditionally voted for the person and not the party but it seems that once in office, once part of the system, most become part of it, part of the problem. I am so fed up that I am supporting Donald Trump all the way. Everything else, and everyone else has failed the people. Look at the way they all attack him now. In church Sunday I stood up and said that we needed to close our borders to all Middle Eastern peoples until this is over, period. I support Donald Trump. He speaks the truth, and if people do not like it then so be it. They are all trying to use this to destroy him but the people know better. I believe he is what we need now in this time, in this terrible time in the world. We need to protect our nation, close the borders, closely monitor the movement of goods, perhaps even have internment camps, force certain individuals to leave the country, all of these things, things that are necessary in time of war. If this interferes with Johnson & Johnson’s plans to implant all the women in sub Saharan Africa with killing mesh, and dispense poison aspirin to their babies that is just too bad. The “Tea Party” people (I still do not know who they really are and what right they had to commandeer a piece of our nations history) need to go home because their time is over. This time the American people are taking back their country under the leadership of a no nonsense, not for sale leader who has demonstrated clearly the qualities this nation needs in a leader in this difficult era. He has said he loves women and I believe him. He had treated his wives well. He has taken good care of his children and he shows George Stepanolopis to be the annoying little man he is, fumbling and bumbling when there is a crises and trying to pester Mr. Trump into saying something that can be used to enhance his own career. I think Mr. Trump is our best and perhaps our only hope to survive this time unscathed and honorably. This is not a war against Muslim peoples, it is a war against terrorists who hide behind black masks and try to hide behind a great faith and damage it in the process.


      • Jane Akre December 9, 2015 at 10:43 pm - Reply

        Bejah- I officially declare this to be a Trump-Free zone,,,, as well as Hillary, Cruz, Isis, Kardashian – free zone UNLESS they are talking about mesh, the FDA or medical devices and/ or drugs. Okay? I like the way your mind works though. I hope to meet you someday.

        • Bejah Blue December 10, 2015 at 9:46 pm - Reply

          Got it, saw that coming actually….pushing the edges. 🙂


        • Bejah Blue December 14, 2015 at 7:51 pm - Reply

          Jane, If nothing else, when you come to LA maybe you can drive out to Palm Springs and we can have lunch at one of my favorite places, Spencer’s in downtown Palm Springs.


          • Jane Akre December 16, 2015 at 4:03 pm

            Yes, we will do that…. I promise!

          • Cara May 3, 2017 at 6:51 pm

            Bejah, do you live in LA? Did you ever go to Dr.Raz, and if so, how are you doing?I am so ready to get this poison out of me.He doesn’t take my insurance, but maybe I can convince him too?

  33. meshie December 8, 2015 at 4:41 pm - Reply

    Found this today on the court website

    Pretrial Order #130 – Decmeber 7, 2015


  34. Linda December 8, 2015 at 7:09 pm - Reply

    This is the only site that we can get information from. The more we are in the dark the more power they have. They don’t want us to say no to settlement offers for $10,000. If we don’t know what is happening, who is testifying to what then we won’t know we can say no. I want my day in court!! If I don’t get any compensation for this travesty I will at least get the satisfaction of being present and watching the facts unfold. I would not be a bit surprised if they block Jane from any more info. Information is knowledge and knowledge is power. Their goal is for us to remain powerless. What will they think of next?

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 8:51 pm - Reply

      Hi Linda, OK lets do a little simple math. First lets assume that you actually get that $10,000 in USD after everyone else takes a piece. I am not very skilled at math, much to my dismay, but this is what it looks like to me: Assuming you live 20 years more, that would be $500 a year or $41.00 a month in today’s dollars. That might pay for two 30 day prescriptions or maybe two co-pays for physician visits.

      i was just typing and suddenly the whole paragraph disappeared! Does this happen to anyone else?

      Do not accept this. They are making fools of you. Try to get together off line and discuss it. What would the court consider reasonable and fair. Even $100,000 would be offensive. You should each receive at least $1M or more depending on your injuries. If they refuse reason go to court. Do not allow them to humiliate you in this way and all those that follow you.


      • Bejah Blue December 14, 2015 at 7:58 pm - Reply

        I forgot to consider that this little settlement will be administered by an organization that specializes in the distribution of settlement funds so we would need to understand that in the example where I came up with $41.00 a month that means that literally every month the beneficiary would get a check for $41.00. By distributing the money in this way the defendant limits their losses. If they had to give you a check for $10,000 that would be less comfortable but is relatively meaningless to them BUT they do not want you to have $0.10 cents. I would opt for trial or hold out for better terms. This is one of the reasons you want to hope you have an excellent law firm representing you, especially in a case like this. So if your case is turned over to a bigger law firm that may not be a bad thing for you. Just a wild guess.


  35. Debbie Edwards December 8, 2015 at 11:51 pm - Reply

    Jane, do you think it would do any good to try and contact Anonymous? Thay seam to be the only ” internet bloogers” that don’t care about the $$$$’es, but do care about corporate injustices and malice. I know it is just a thought, but maybe it’s time we think out of the box and fight for our God given right.

    • Jane Akre December 9, 2015 at 12:47 pm - Reply

      Hi Debbie- I don’t know who you mean by anonymous? That is a person who contributes her regularly. I know her identity. I suspect you are not referring to her. Thank you for the clarification.

  36. Wendy December 9, 2015 at 1:00 am - Reply

    I am shocked that anyone can judge these women and say that we just have to except the distruction that mesh has caused our lives. If I knew what I know now and was told that there is a risk that the mesh may cut right through your vaginal wall, poking and cutting you with movement because the mesh shrunk and broke apart and the body expells it like a sliver through your vagina. If I would of been told that it can grow into your organs and cause nerve damage. You could be disabled and loose your health, home and job. That is just the tip of the complications I have been through, there are days when the nerve damage makes your life unbearable where you feel why isn’t someone taking the blame for all the mesh survivors lives that were just taken away, not even making enough on disability to pay the bills and have maybe some left over for food and gas. So no one will convince me that this is just the risks of having surgery. Mesh has caused me so much loss and after 4 surgeries and waiting for the 5th one to reconstruct my vagina, fix my incontanants. I feel MUTALATED INSIDE no one should have to live this way and no one should judge unless they have been in our shoes. So frustrated and defeated that I lose the will to live some days.

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 8:57 pm - Reply

      Dear Wendy, Tens of thousands have already been mutiliated in the way you have described. It has already happened. I am very sorry it has also happened to you as it has. Now we have to work with what we have to seek justice, to try to heal ourselves, to create new lives from the remains of the old ones. We must find a way to go on as we seek justice that seems a distant and unlikely hope. I would say it builds character to cope with it but that is not what you need to hear right now. One day you will be receptive to that message.


  37. Joleen Chambers December 9, 2015 at 11:25 am - Reply

    I am a trained Patient Representative at FDA/CDRH and was an observer at Batiste v. J&J Ethicon, Salazar v. Boston Scientific Obtryx, Cavness v. J&J Ethicon Prosima in Texas State District Court in Dallas. It is essential that harmed patients have access to the court proceedings and with the constraints of their disability the CVN live feed and Mesh Medical Device News Desk reporting is an essential accommodation. If the trials had been in any other location (than in my hometown) the costs would have mounted for absence from work, parking fees, food, overnight lodging and travel. Equal access to the courthouse must include these constraints on harmed patients and their advocates. I strongly protest the decision to deny CVN live feed at any pelvic surgical mesh trial.

    • Bejah Blue December 9, 2015 at 8:59 pm - Reply

      Joleen, Thank you for your post. But….I do not understand why this is happening so I must assume many others do not understand either. Please help us identify the facts, those responsible, and why, why? What can we do? Thank you.


    • Tammy (KY) December 10, 2015 at 6:27 am - Reply

      Joleen, Well said. It’s another crime against us Mesh Injured. Thank you for all your support. Jane , has always stood beside us. It’s amazing to have women like you and Jane to support us and be our ears and voices for the women and men that have been Injured. God bless you both and Merry Christmas. Thank you again.

  38. Debbie Edwards December 9, 2015 at 4:50 pm - Reply

    Hi Jane, sorry for the confusion, I was talking about the hackers that go after corporations that are liers or are covering up wrong doing. Maybe they would be able to uncover information about the documents that went missing or destroyed. This is turning against us and we need to get our story’s out…..but because of the company’s deep pockets and the fear of the money lost in advertisement, most tv and newspapers are not going to stand up for us.

  39. Bejah Blue December 14, 2015 at 8:04 pm - Reply

    All I want for Christmas is for a whistle blower to pop out of Johnson & Johnson, an awesome, high value whistle blower who could blow these cases out of the water and deliver such damaging news about JnJ that the government would be compelled to finally split apart this monstrous organization forever.


  40. Karen Paxton December 15, 2015 at 4:31 pm - Reply

    Jane is this the comment board that the defence found so intimating? I have read just about every comment here and else where and I really don’t see anything that would warrant these actions that caused the plug being pulled. Just another tactic in trying to cut a common artery for us injured.

    • Jane Akre December 16, 2015 at 12:36 pm - Reply

      Yes that’s it. It will only cost about $5,000 to have our issue heard before the judge. Anyone?

      • Mary Pat December 16, 2015 at 1:20 pm - Reply

        Jane – could you start a Go fund account or something similar that we can all share on Facebookk? Maybe if it goes to enough people abd wr all contribute what little we can we will get yhe $5000. Why isnt the ACLU taking this on? Have you contacted them?

        • Jane Akre December 16, 2015 at 3:54 pm - Reply

          I have contacted everyone including ACLu folks. You never feel more alone then when you need help! Really, it’s sort of shocking…. Yes, that is a good idea. but who will forward the 5k? I cannot

      • Bejah Blue December 22, 2015 at 6:48 pm - Reply

        I think the Go Fund account is a very good idea. If we all contributed we should be able to achieve that goal pretty quickly. As these things go it is not that much money. I think we should try and it would give us all the feeling that we are doing something, especially those of us who have limitations of one sort or another that keep us from doing what we would like to to help.


    • Bejah Blue December 22, 2015 at 6:46 pm - Reply

      Karen, At the very least they want to intimidate Jane and the rest of us. It is in part psychologial warfare.


  41. kitty December 21, 2015 at 3:31 pm - Reply

    It was the Dr kim thing

  42. mary December 23, 2015 at 11:11 am - Reply

    Wish i could have had Dr. Raz was not that lucky after 5 surgery’s with the 2nd.one after pain and infection my doc. and he was suppose to have been a good one taught others around SC he finally went back in after another Doc. ask him to that was when they found the mesh was wrapped around my colon cut my colon into trying to get the mesh out had to ware a colostomy for 6 months worst time in my life have had 3 more surgery s the 4th one i ask my doc. how things was he said bad he wouldn’t say anything else so i dont know what went on so now the 5th i had hernias in 2 spots on my colon the doc done my 4th would not even exam me on my 6 wk check up he said im good i heard now he moved somewhere else.i feel so sorry for all the women going through the pain it is hard to get through we will never be the same J&J are so selfish we will never get what we deserve if anything bless every body and thanks Jane for all your feed back….mary

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